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re: DA’s should be held accountable
Posted on 9/29/22 at 7:53 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
Posted on 9/29/22 at 7:53 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
quote:DA’s should be held accountable
Do you really think that’s what I have a problem with? Wtf?
Posted on 9/29/22 at 7:59 pm to Masterag
It’s always very popular with the left to end qualified immunity for police officers.
Throw in judges and DAs and you will see how quickly they’re not interested in ending qualified immunity.
Throw in judges and DAs and you will see how quickly they’re not interested in ending qualified immunity.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:00 pm to cwill
quote:
Do you really think that’s what I have a problem with? Wtf?
I don't particularly care what you have a problem with.
I was pointing out that you aren't having a discussion in a vacuum.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:03 pm to cwill
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Going to jail 5 years if you declined to prosecute and something happens is a helluva malpractice threat. This will lead to more gov waste through unnecessary prosecutions driven by this “malpractice threat” and will probably result in more innocents in jail. It’s just a stupid overcorrection.
This is why in a sane world you would have an oversight board run faked crimes through the system to see which DAs are piece of shite
If you vigourously prosecute something clearly wrong you go to prison
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:06 pm to Caraway Rye
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This is why in a sane world you would have an oversight board run faked crimes through the system to see which DAs are piece of shite
If you vigourously prosecute something clearly wrong you go to prison
Explain this further. I’m missing it.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:09 pm to Caraway Rye
Voting is imperfect under the best circumstances
In Orlando, an unknown young female attorney ran for state attorney funded by soros and the promise not to prosecute and to release criminals.
She ran against the judge who presided over Casey Anthony case. He lost. Crime has increased… go figure.
As a comedian once said “you can’t fix stupid”
In Orlando, an unknown young female attorney ran for state attorney funded by soros and the promise not to prosecute and to release criminals.
She ran against the judge who presided over Casey Anthony case. He lost. Crime has increased… go figure.
As a comedian once said “you can’t fix stupid”
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:12 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
Explain this further. I’m missing it.
You give a fake case with completely manufactured details that are obviously not lawfully prosecutable and if they do it, gone.
Or
You give a fake case with completely manufactured details that are obviously lawfully prosecutable and if they shelve it, gone.
You could even put a watermark across the entire case file that says this is fake and DAs will ignore it on bias alone.
How many DAs could pass a test on whether what they are looking at was illegal, fake, or legal. Doubt many.
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:22 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:It is often difficult to follow illogical arguments based upon subjective standards/metrics.
Explain this further. I’m missing it.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:27 pm to Masterag
You need to remember that as a prosecutor, my cases are highly dependent on the work of investigators. I have to dismiss cases, not all the time, but more than I should, because of a bad search, improper interrogations, etc. Sometimes it’s just a shite investigation as well. There are some agencies I work with that are top notch and others that are questionable at best to be honest. The public never sees that but my oath is to the law, not victims, and not to put everyone in jail. It’s to follow the law so if I see a bad search or whatever it’s my ethical obligation to kill it even if a defense attorney misses it.
With that being said, I have no sympathy for violent criminals, or people who commit crime in general. I do my job.
I’m not making excuses for the super left liberal DAs, as I think many are in derelict of their duties, but how great to you think the average investigation is coming from NOPD or BRPD?
Also, many cases are killed for lack of victim cooperation. Whether it be a drug dealer shoots another dealer and the victim won’t cooperate because he’ll be viewed as a snitch or you have parents that don’t want to put their sexually abused 8 year old through the traumatic process of a trial and the legal process in general which often lengthy.
There are so many things that go into a prosecution that the general public doesn’t know/understand. And this is from someone who is in a ruby red district with views on crime that are generally consistent with most tough on crime people.
With that being said, I have no sympathy for violent criminals, or people who commit crime in general. I do my job.
I’m not making excuses for the super left liberal DAs, as I think many are in derelict of their duties, but how great to you think the average investigation is coming from NOPD or BRPD?
Also, many cases are killed for lack of victim cooperation. Whether it be a drug dealer shoots another dealer and the victim won’t cooperate because he’ll be viewed as a snitch or you have parents that don’t want to put their sexually abused 8 year old through the traumatic process of a trial and the legal process in general which often lengthy.
There are so many things that go into a prosecution that the general public doesn’t know/understand. And this is from someone who is in a ruby red district with views on crime that are generally consistent with most tough on crime people.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 12:05 am
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:58 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
I don't particularly care what you have a problem with. I was pointing out that you aren't having a discussion in a vacuum.
Whatever dude, you’re not being honest.
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:58 pm to AggieHank86
Voters in cities identify with the criminals more than the victims so they vote for lenient DAs.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 8:59 pm to cwill
quote:
Whatever dude, you’re not being honest.
I was pretty direct. I'm not sure how I could be any more honest.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:32 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:
I was pretty direct. I'm not sure how I could be any more honest.
Your not honestly addressing my point. Not sure how you could misunderstand.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:36 am to Masterag
A FAR greater crime is DAs who send people to prison, who are later clearly exonerated based on the evidence.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:53 am to OccamsStubble
I would actually place them on the same level.
Choosing to not prosecute a serious crime that ethically should be prosecuted is the same as prosecuting an innocent person.
Both are withholding justice.
Choosing to not prosecute a serious crime that ethically should be prosecuted is the same as prosecuting an innocent person.
Both are withholding justice.
Posted on 9/30/22 at 7:57 am to Powerman
LAW AND ORDER!
Enforce the laws on the books
Enforce the laws on the books
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:00 am to Masterag
It’s racist to prosecute crimes
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:22 am to boosiebadazz
quote:Example (there are MANY!):
Explain this further.
Case Background:
A few years back, a pediatrician was accused of touching 7y/o boy inappropriately. The complaint had flashing red warning signals all over it. The 7y/o "victim" was taking a long time in the hospital restroom. Questioned by his caregiver about it (mother was too busy to be around), he said it was because his penis hurt. Questioned about why his penis would hurt, he said the doctor rubbed it.
Hospital complaint lodged. Penis examined. No evidence of trauma. Next day mother decides to come home, gets story. Refiles complaint. This time on exam, the penis was red, slightly swollen, with "fingernail marks" on it.
Apparently, unbeknownst to the family, the MD was a peds faculty professor, meaning he NEVER saw patients without residents present.
Two prosecutors with a history of win-at-all-costs unethical conduct resulting in multiple mistrials took up the case. They ignored all caution signals, and instead threw the book at the accused doctor. Major criminal charges were filed. He was perp walked. Mugshots released. They told the state medical board the case was a slam dunk, and it should immediately suspend his medical licence. The medical board complied taking away the guy's income. The prosecutors continually leaked stories about the case to the press which were, by design, sensational and horribly damaging to the MD's previous stellar reputation.
Trial:
At trial the prosecution was destroyed. Defense established the caregiver had only left the 7y/o alone from 7am-9am on the day in question. Not only was the doctor accompanied by residents and students seeing patients, medical notes established the team was on rounds the entire time. The school conducted its own investigation and found zero evidence of even a possibility the charges could be true. That team testified as to its findings. 40 MDs and RNs testified for the defense. By closing arguments, the case was being described as an embarrassment for the prosecution.
Result:
Did I mention the doctor was white, the "victim" and prosecutor and several jury members were black? No? Well that would be because it never came up until closing arguments, when the prosecutor accused the doctor of being a racist white man who targeted the kid for abuse because the kid was black. She did that to get a mistrial, allowing prosecutors a second bite at the apple. The Judge went ballistic. She labeled the misbehavior an intent to force a mistrial "in the face of an impending judgment of acquittal." Instead, she dismissed the charges with prejudice, precluding retrial. She further issued findings in a writ stating prosecutors intentionally violated the law. The legal community referred to it as a major "benchslapping".
Consequences:
To this day, the doc encounters concerns that he is some sort of pedophile. Parents occasionally request a change of physician because "He is that guy who was in the news for doing something to a kid."
What happened to the two bastard prosecutors? Nothing! Not one damn thing! They tried to ruin an obviously innocent man. They attempted to jail him by any means, including breaking the law themselves according to the judge. What is their penalty? A judicial scolding. Nothing else.
It's absolutely ridiculous!
In fact the lead prosecutor is now working with a firm in personal injury, and is unbelievably working with the family to rekindle the case in a civil suit.
Are you still missing it?
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 8:27 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:23 am to AggieHank86
quote:Don't they serve like 4-6 year terms? That’s a long fricking time to tolerate a shitty DA.
in most places, the voting booth. If the constituents of a given district attorney do not like the way he is doing his job, they can remove him at the next election.
This post was edited on 9/30/22 at 8:24 am
Posted on 9/30/22 at 8:43 am to bhtigerfan
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