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re: Darryl Cooper, "America's most honest historian," returning to Tucker Carlson...

Posted on 7/16/25 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by 1999
Where I be
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 5:28 pm to
Just listened to his Epstein episode, very interesting. Especially the Barr stuff.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 5:32 pm to
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Cooper claimed that the Nazis were "unprepared" to handle millions of prisoners of war and political dissidents, suggesting their brutality was a result of poor planning.


Oh, yeah. I forgot about that part. Dude is hella stupid. It was official policy by the Wehrmacht to be as brutal toward their Red Army POWs as it was possible to be. All political officers they captured were ordered to be immediately executed, no trial or anything. For Nazi Germany Operation Barbarossa wasn't just a war of ideology, it was a race war. Hitler's thugs regarded Slavs as sub-human. They wanted to kill as many of them as possible, using the survivors as slave labor.
Posted by Riverside
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 5:36 pm to
Absolutely. There’s a great series on Amazon Prime called Generation War. It’s in German but it’s really outstanding. You see first hand how Hitler and the Nazis turned the war with the Soviets into a total war against combatants and non-combatants.

I was always a big fan of Tucker but he really is wrong for giving this Cooper guy a platform for his insane theories.
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 5:41 pm to
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I was always a big fan of Tucker but he really is wrong for giving this Cooper guy a platform for his insane theories.


Bringing things to the light is how you find out the truth. If he says false things, it's a good time to debunk them and educate them.

If you just attack the messenger and never do that, then you validate them.

I've never listened to the guy, I think I'll give this episode a listen though. I like hearing alternative perspectives on events even when I don't agree with them.



Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 5:42 pm to
Darryl Cooper said Hitler was “kind of a good guy.”
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 5:47 pm to
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He's an entertainer, and a podcaster.


Which is of course also true of Dan Carlin. And Joe Rogan himself.

Now, Mark Bowden and Annie Jacobsen are journalists by training, but they end up doing "history" in a journalistic style. Nobody is better than they are at what they do.

Likewise, Rush Limbaugh was a shock jock who flipped the political switch and set the world on fire.

"Credentialism" needs to go away, in all seriousness.
Posted by Riverside
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 5:59 pm to
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I've never listened to the guy, I think I'll give this episode a listen though. I like hearing alternative perspectives on events even when I don't agree with them.


This guy isn’t presenting “alternative perspectives” on the Second World War. He’s actually presenting ahistorical information and pretending it’s legitimate. If you enjoy fairytales about the Third Reich, then you’ll love his podcast.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:03 pm to
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This guy isn’t presenting “alternative perspectives” on the Second World War. He’s actually presenting ahistorical information and pretending it’s legitimate. If you enjoy fairytales about the Third Reich, then you’ll love his podcast.


I already said I would listen to it, you don't have to sell me on it.

This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 6:04 pm
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:07 pm to
Read “Water Beneath the Waves.” People may have their problem with him, but nobody else is doing 15 hour escapades on Jim Jones.
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 6:29 pm to
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"Credentialism" needs to go away, in all seriousness.


Do you feel the same about doctors?
Lawyers?

To note, Journalists can write great popular history books.

Modern history is documented by journalists.

To paraphrase Durant, it's not history if it's too recent.
His works only go up to 1815, or 70 years before his own birth, anything more recent he considered as the realm of journalism.

This was because recent history has not settled, there are too many adherents and advocates.

Bowden is very much a good author in this sense.

I'm unfamiliar with Jacobsen's work.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:13 pm to
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People may have their problem with him, but nobody else is doing 15 hour escapades on Jim Jones.


That's because no one else really cares enough to do that.
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:16 pm to
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That's because no one else really cares enough to do that.



This clown actually stated that Winston Churchill was the biggest villain of the Second World War
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:21 pm to
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Darryl Cooper
did they ever find the money after he jumped out of the plane?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:26 pm to
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Darryl Cooper, "America's most honest historian," returning to Tucker Carlson...


Is this the guy who implied the SS Death Camps were merciful because they couldn't feed them all, and they would've slowly died of starvation?
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:40 pm to
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Bringing things to the light is how you find out the truth. If he says false things, it's a good time to debunk them and educate them.


Tucker calls him the most honest historian, so it's being peddled as the truth. Tucker doesn't push back.

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I like hearing alternative perspectives on events even when I don't agree with them.



Victor Davis Hansen (and others) outlined blatant lies told by Cooper during the last Tucker podcast. So, it's not simply an "alternative perspective"; it's lies. Do you like when someone is lying to your face? Because that's what Cooper and Tucker are doing.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 7:41 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:53 pm to
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Do you feel the same about doctors?
Lawyers?


Well, the professions regulate themselves to protect the public. I was more against rewarding academics because they stay in school, don't rock the boat and publish.

Doesn't make them the final authority on this or that topic. I don't listen to/read Victor Davis Hansen because of his PhD. I do so because he's brilliant and explains things well.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 7:54 pm
Posted by Narax
Member since Jan 2023
5985 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:37 pm to
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I was more against rewarding academics because they stay in school, don't rock the boat and publish.

What makes a historian is a dedication to rigorous and well documented work.

That's why they have a deep bibliography, foot notes, appendix sections etc...

A work should stand by itself inclusive of its supporting documents.

Hansen is a classicist, he learned the rigor in his classics courses.

He's brilliant because hes a dedicated classicist.
He wasn't just born able to write military history.

That's the whole point of education, to learn the lessons of those who came before.

Its the far left that eschews training.
The woke lunatics reject the wisdom of those who came before, they violate the rules of their profession, no different than a doctor who does "gender affirming care".


Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:38 am to
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Darryl Cooper said Hitler was “kind of a good guy.”


He wasn’t down with Bolsheviks implementing LGBTQ and usury on his people/nation state.

The 1930’s were much closer in time to the 1850’s vs 2020’s. Like Old Testament vs New Testament. It’s one giant book, but it reads very different.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18032 posts
Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:48 am to
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wasn’t down with Bolsheviks implementing LGBTQ and usury on his people/nation state.


True. People dont know who the bolsheviks were and why they were hated. For one, they assassinated the czar.

Modern culture likes to believe the entire country was just racist against Slavs. That is dumb. Even to this day, people will act like the biggest assholes on the planet and use the excuse "you dont like me bc you are racist." That is an old bolshevik move.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/17/25 at 6:51 am to
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He wasn’t down with Bolsheviks implementing LGBTQ and usury on his people/nation state.

Zero defense of the Nazis from me.

It’s clear to anyone who looks at the Weimar Republic however that it was a guttural rejection of the horrible post Kaiser era form of government and economics that Germany experienced post WWI and if it hadn’t gone fascist it was going to go communist. The KPD (communist party) were the clear alternative to the Nazis and a communist Germany allied with Soviet Russia would’ve been a massive calamity in and of itself for the rest of the world.
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