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re: Dallas: Policewoman Shoots Man - Wrong Apartment
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:00 am to the808bass
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:00 am to the808bass
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There have been 80 police officers charged with killing people from 2005-2017. Around 1/3 were found guilty. So, in cases where the situation was egregious enough to bring charges, only 1/3 were found guilty.
How many of these were line of duty? How many of these cases fit this scenario or even come close to this scenario?
Wow, 80 officers charged over a 12 year period? I can see this a HUGE problem that needs to be addressed... Tell me, what percentage of total LE in the U.S. does that come out to?
She is going to have a hard time not being convicted or something here....
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Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:07 am to The Maj
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There have been 80 police officers charged with killing people from 2005-2017. Around 1/3 were found guilty. So, in cases where the situation was egregious enough to bring charges, only 1/3 were found guilty.
Just because 2/3 were not found guilty doesn't mean they didn't do anything wrong...
The city of New York has paid over $1 Billion dollars in cases of police misconduct.....
Other cities have also paid in police misconduct.....imagine how much of that money could be given for veteran care
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:19 am to the808bass
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Another study found that of over 3,000 police officers charged with crimes
How can it be a crime if they are the law?
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:21 am to LaTexSaint
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Just because 2/3 were not found guilty doesn't mean they didn't do anything wrong...
80 charged, I didn't say they had not done anything wrong... That is the TOTAL number he posted 80...
Roughly 420 to 430K sworn LE in the U.S. over the time he listed...
Going further over that same time period, apparently there are a grand total of 6,596 LE that were charged with any type of crime over that same period...
Very small percentage and even if you tripled the numbers, it is still a very small percentage...
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:24 am to td01241
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Was the man black? Need to gauge my outrage appropriately
Anyone read the article:
Walking into the wrong apartment? Unlocked? Was she drunk?
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:32 am to The Maj
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Wow, 80 officers charged over a 12 year period? I can see this a HUGE problem that needs to be addressed... Tell me, what percentage of total LE in the U.S. does that come out to?
So, turnabout being fair play, with around 60 officers being feloniously killed per year out of thousands and thousands of officers, it’s not a big problem either, I guess.
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 10:35 am
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:36 am to the808bass
What a retard lady and what a horrible situation for the family of the dead dude. I really hope they get paid out and that this lady is never, ever allowed to police again. Police are usually heroes so it especially sucks when something like this happens and you have idiots using it to bash all cops.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:37 am to The Maj
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80 charged, I didn't say they had not done anything wrong... That is the TOTAL number he posted 80...
You’re in a different reality. What color is the sky?
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:38 am to lsu480
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Police are usually heroes so it especially sucks when something like this happens and you have idiots using it to bash all cops.
I’m not bashing all cops. I’m bashing a system that covers for cops even when they’re in the wrong.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:39 am to the808bass
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So, turnabout being fair play, with around 60 officers being feloniously killed per year out of thousands and thousands of officers, it’s not a big problem either, I guess.
Wait, 60 LE per year are killed and yet 80 LE are charged with killing someone over a 12 year period, so 7 charged per year vs 60 killed per year?
Tell me you can see the difference...
One crooked cop is one too many but you try to make it look like cops just run around gunning folks down at will and that simply is not happening in this country...
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:40 am to The Maj
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Wait, 60 LE per year are killed and yet 80 LE are charged with killing someone over a 12 year period, so 7 charged per year vs 60 killed per year?
You may not realize you’re partially supporting my case here.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:40 am to The Maj
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So, in cases where the situation was egregious enough to bring charges, only 1/3 were found guilty
This means little.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:41 am to the808bass
Might've already been said, but knowing how businesses (apartments) tend to use off-duty police as extra security... Is it possible the police officer had a passkey that opened every door, to exercise those security duties?
If so, the apartment complex owner has liability.
If so, the apartment complex owner has liability.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:41 am to the808bass
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You may not realize you’re partially supporting my case here.
What that there is some huge cover up and cops are actually running around killing people willy nilly? You cannot cover that much shite up in this day and time if you tried...
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:44 am to Azkiger
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I'm confused, when is it ok to politicize deaths?
Handy guide for PT board:
Cops negligently shoot someone - don't politicize it
Kid shoots up a school - don't politicize it
Illegal alien kills someone - politicize it
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:45 am to the808bass
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I’m not bashing all cops. I’m bashing a system that covers for cops even when they’re in the wrong.
This is the primary problem and if the system dealt with the bad cops you would probably see a drastic change in the overall perception of cops.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:46 am to The Maj
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One crooked cop is one too many but you try to make it look like cops just run around gunning folks down at will and that simply is not happening in this country...
I do not believe this to be the case. There’s only 20-50 people who are killed by police each year (out of 1000 or so) where it looks pretty fricked up.
I understand accidents happen and that no one’s judgment is as perfect as 20/20 hindsight. But police should be held to the same standard as a citizen when they legitimately (or illegitimately) screw up. That isn’t even close to happening.
Even when police kill people maliciously on video without cause, they have a decent chance of walking away (Kelly Thomas, first trial re: Walter Scott) . If they accidentally kill someone through what looks to be horrible negligence, they almost certainly walk (Christopher Roupe, Tamir Rice). When it’s something in between (Chris Boyd, Erik Scott), they’re probably walking.
This post was edited on 9/7/18 at 10:51 am
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:52 am to The Maj
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One crooked cop is one too many but you try to make it look like cops just run around gunning folks down at will and that simply is not happening in this country...
The problem is the double standard. Dirty cops are protected most of the time.
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:55 am to the808bass
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police should be held to the same standard as a citizen
This is simply impossible because they are two entirely different scenarios... In most cases, even when an LE is "off duty" they still have a duty to act within their jurisdictions, no private citizen has such duty and they cannot be held to the same standard...
You still do not have hard data to prove that cops are not being punished for their negligence, so how can you say "it is not even close to happening"?
Posted on 9/7/18 at 10:58 am to the808bass
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I’m not bashing all cops. I’m bashing a system that covers for cops even when they’re in the wrong.
I didn’t think you were and I, and every other rational person, agree that police need to be charged with crimes when they commit them.
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