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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:00 pm to
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you're going to start seeing recoveries in the hundreds per day.


I think actual recoveries will outpace reported recoveries by a bit of time. I suspect we’ll see a lag in reported recoveries.
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3753 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:05 pm to
Does anyone even know how they quantify a recovery yet? The recoveries are obviously exponentially higher than what is being reported. There is just no realistic method to determine what a recovery is. It’s not like people are calling or going in for follow ups when they feel better.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124745 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:09 pm to
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The recoveries are obviously exponentially higher than what is being reported.


Obviously. These can only be recoveries from conformed cases. As testing is ramping up for new cases, I suspect recovery confirmations may take a back seat in priority.
Posted by bogeypro
North Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
4052 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:10 pm to
You folks are assuming that accurate numbers are being reported... knowing these bunch, they could be purposely not reporting recoveries or negatives to make it seem worse.

I just don't trust the clowns running the reporting.
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3753 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:13 pm to
I don’t think it’s necessarily the reporting that’s the problem it’s just the fact that recoveries aren’t really quantifiable and neither are people that are asymptomatic. Of course the most prevailant numbers are for the people that are actually sick and going to doctors and hospitals.
This post was edited on 3/16/20 at 11:18 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124745 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:20 pm to
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I just don't trust the clowns running the reporting.


The numbers are way better than the worst case scenarios at this point and markedly better than Italy’s numbers at roughly the same point. It’s trending towards a wholly manageable situation at this point. So, if they’re faking the numbers, they’re not doing a very good job.
Posted by LosLobos111
Austere
Member since Feb 2011
45385 posts
Posted on 3/16/20 at 11:22 pm to
I wonder if the choloroquine stuff can work
Posted by Jinglebob
Member since Jan 2020
948 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:47 am to
What does "recoveries" mean?

Is that asymptomatic people who tested positive and went about their business?

Is that symptomatic people who after x number of days had no symptoms?

Is that hospitalized people who were released?

Is it people who tested positive and eventually tested negative?

Anyone know how it is determined?
Posted by Jinglebob
Member since Jan 2020
948 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:51 am to
And for those keeping score:

85 total deaths
48 WA
37 rest of the country

LINK

10 NY
7 CA
5 FL
3 LA
2 NJ
1 CO, GA, IN, KS, KY, NV, OR, SC, SD, VA
0 AK, HI, ID, MT, WY, UT, AZ, NM, TX, OK, NE, ND, MN, IA, MO, IL, WI, MI, OH, PA, VT, NH, ME, CT, MA, RI, MD, DE, WV, NC, TN, AR, MS, AL
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 1:05 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124745 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 12:54 am to
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85 total deaths 48 WA 37 rest of the country


Yeah. That’s how the virus works. Italy is getting hit hard in Lombardy. China got hit hard in Hubei. South Korea got hit hard in Daegu.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36925 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 1:40 am to
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The numbers are way better than the worst case scenarios at this point and markedly better than Italy’s numbers at roughly the same point. It’s trending towards a wholly manageable situation at this point. So, if they’re faking the numbers, they’re not doing a very good job.

Number of deaths look much better, but member of cases looks about the same. We will see if we start slowing down from recent actions in about a week.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124745 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 1:41 am to
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Number of deaths look much better


Yeah. That’s the important one.
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 2:19 am to
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You folks are assuming that accurate numbers are being reported..


Until enough testing is done the mortality rate needs to stop being bandied around as a scare tactic, no one has a clue what it is yet.

I am willing to bet it is orders of magnitude less than what is being thrown out there right now.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:46 am to
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mmcgrath
Italy is a terrible comparison as has been pointed out numerous times in multiple threads.

The current numbers don't appear to be anywhere near h1n1. Way way lower.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13040 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:51 am to
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Number of deaths look much better, but member of cases looks about the same. We will see if we start slowing down from recent actions in about a week.

That's because you're comparing raw case numbers from a country with 5x fewer people and with worse medical infrastructure per capita to the US. These total case number comparisons to Italy are asinine without adjusting for population.
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:52 am to
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Italy is a terrible comparison as has been pointed out numerous times in multiple threads.


Why exactly? I must have missed the numerous threads.

We were following Italy's exact rate (numbers wise) and schedule almost exactly, and now we are trending to end up with worse numbers.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
33874 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:56 am to
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Number of deaths look much better, but member of cases looks about the same. We will see if we start slowing down from recent actions in about a week.


The US also has FIVE times the population of Italy. So while the raw number of cases look the same, the proportional number of cases in the US is unbelievably small
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124745 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 8:57 am to
Because we’re much smaller. And we aren’t just putting 80 year olds out to pasture.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94642 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:00 am to
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now we are trending to end up with worse numbers.


What do you mean, "worse"? Per capita? Total? Deaths?

Be specific, man. We have almost 6x the population of Italy.

We would have to lose 100 people a day for 3 weeks to even catch Italy in raw number of deaths.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 9:01 am
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 3/17/20 at 9:01 am to
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Number of deaths look much better, but member of cases looks about the same. We will see if we start slowing down from recent actions in about a week.

A nation with privatized health care having markedly better outcomes than a nation with nationalized health care

Who woulda thunk it!
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