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Posted on 3/17/20 at 3:35 pm to
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 3:35 pm to
Updated and added a new data & graph for cases per 1M of population.

The growth rate for new cases is high today.




NOTE: THIS IS NOT FOR THE FULL DAY, THESE NUMBERS WILL GO UP THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

I will update later in the day and at the end of the day.
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 3:40 pm to
Higher today but testing is going on now for real so that's expected. Right?
Posted by PrinceVegeta
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 3:45 pm to
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Higher today but testing is going on now for real so that's expected. Right?


Correct. This is expected.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 3:46 pm to
Yes, as more testing is done, the total cases will go up. The question will be, does the mortality rate go up, remain steady, or fall as more cases are recorded.

One would think it should fall, let's hope it does.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:03 pm to
Country-by-country comparison from the Financial Times (UK).

Posted by meeple
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:10 pm to
Can COVID-19 be identified as a COD postmortem? Otherwise will the conformed deaths only be tied to those tested?
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:31 pm to
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Can COVID-19 be identified as a COD postmortem? Otherwise will the conformed deaths only be tied to those tested?


Yes. It’s already happened. Kansas City, Kansas. Man passed in the hospital and was discovered post-mortem to have coronavirus.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:36 pm to
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Curious, is that person symptomatic and what is their severity?


Not too severe from what I’ve heard. But symptomatic. Friend of a friend situation.

They had direct contact with someone from a hotspot who was subsequently symptomatic and then tested positive. Health professionals went back and advised everyone the foreigner had contact with to watch for symptoms. He self-quarantined and then went to get tested as he developed symptoms. His son took him to the testing and is also self-quarantining.
Posted by bfniii
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:44 pm to
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Cases are rising so fast.
this is what i don't understand. all things considered, they aren't rising "so fast." the growth rate % has dropped 7 days in a row and that's with the virus spreading and testing uncovering more cases. at this point in the day, it's entirely possible the gr% will drop yet again.

even so, the total number of cases going up is entirely expected given testing is increasing. however, as that number goes up, the mortality rate will go down, as has been pointed out repeatedly.

the projections being given by authorities are absolutely perplexing unless they know something they aren't telling the public. in the first 6 months of h1n1, there were 20 million cases. so far, kungflu is a dud compared to that.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:45 pm to
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the growth rate % has dropped 7 days in a row


The raw number of new cases grows each day. The reason the percentage drops is the denominator is a lot bigger every day.

We had fewer than 1,000 new cases yesterday. We’re over 1,500 today with hours still to go.

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the projections being given by authorities are absolutely perplexing unless they know something they aren't telling the public. in the first 6 months of h1n1, there were 20 million cases. so far, kungflu is a dud compared to that.


I largely agree with this.
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 4:47 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:46 pm to
Today's growth rate of 25.9% already exceeds yesterday's rate of 24.5%. It can't go down, only up.

Today's growth rate ends the 7 day lowering trend.
Posted by bfniii
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:51 pm to
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The raw number of new cases grows each day
but as the growth rate % drops, the curve "flattens." that's what happens every year with any flu outbreak

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The reason the percentage drops is the denominator is a lot bigger every day
precisely. but it doesn't help to take this % out of context. the context is in comparison to other outbreaks. two years ago, there were 60k deaths from seasonal flu. this outbreak is not on that kind of trajectory so far. not even close
Posted by bfniii
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 4:58 pm to
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Today's growth rate of 25.9% already exceeds yesterday's rate of 24.5%
if you look at your statistics, there have been exceptions to the trend. this may be yet another. and as i said, this is totally, completely expected given the increase in testing and attention

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It can't go down, only up
it's been going down for 7 straight days according to your own data.

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Today's growth rate ends the 7 day lowering trend
but that doesn't mean it will continue to go up, even though i would expect it to for a time.

again, my overall point is the unprecedented response to a virus outbreak that isn't even budging the needle compared to previous outbreaks. it's perplexing. there were 35mil cases of flu last flu season. it's entirely possible this flu will be some significant percentage of that, like swine flu was in 09-10 but, it does not appear to be that way so far despite very little and late testing, late quarantines and social distancing. we did NONE of that in 2009. i'm not saying we shouldn't be responsible but, the current situation seems to be a huge overreaction and i'm trying to understand the social reasons why.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:00 pm to
I'm simply talking about today's growth rate over yesterday. Not the overall growth rate of the total cases.

Today's growth rate, wherever it finally ends up, will break the 7 day declining trend.

Daily Growth Rate = (Todays_total_cases - Yesterdays_total_cases) / Yesterdays_total_cases
This post was edited on 3/17/20 at 5:03 pm
Posted by gthog61
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:02 pm to
so to get the dreaded 1.7% mortality rate they are dividing by 5900 cases in the whole country

There are at least 5 times that many cases so the mortality rate is more like 0.3%.

I pulled that number out of my arse but I bet it is closer than 5900.

Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:05 pm to
You are correct the mortality rate is Deaths / Total cases. Since we KNOW total cases is understated, it would make sense to assume the mortality rate is overstated.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:09 pm to
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so to get the dreaded 1.7% mortality rate they are dividing by 5900 cases in the whole country

There are at least 5 times that many cases so the mortality rate is more like 0.3%.

I pulled that number out of my arse but I bet it is closer than 5900.


I believe you are closer to that as well. Especially since there is proof some people are asymptomatic and will never get tested unless it becomes mandatory for everyone.
Posted by frogglet
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:18 pm to
That is true but on the other hand this disease takes time to kill. On average something like 18 days from onset till death. Given that the vast majority of cases are less than 18 days old the mortality is going to increase as more cases die. When you add it all together the experts are expecting a mortality rate of maybe 0.7-1.0%. We'll see though.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:18 pm to
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Today's growth rate of 25.9% already exceeds yesterday's rate of 24.5%. It can't go down, only up.

Today's growth rate ends the 7 day lowering trend.



As many have said the blip today may be a function of testing coming online. We may see an uptick for a few more days until testing is distributed as needed then we should start the downtrend again. At least I hope that's the case.
Posted by bfniii
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Posted on 3/17/20 at 5:32 pm to
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Given that the vast majority of cases are less than 18 days old the mortality is going to increase as more cases die
well of course it is but that's not noteworthy. if we had tests in the hundreds of thousands, like other countries, the mortality would be very near the seasonal flu which makes perfect sense.

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When you add it all together the experts are expecting a mortality rate of maybe 0.7-1.0%
which is absurd. none of this is making sense. if the virus is spreading rapidly, that greatly reduces the mortality rate which suggests it's not nearly as dangerous as billed. if it doesn't spread rapidly, then the virus just isn't as contagious as it's being billed. there's some disconnect somewhere between the actual numbers and the projections/advisories
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