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re: Current US turmoil was what Hitler predicted
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:59 am to DelU249
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:59 am to DelU249
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Do you want to live in this one? it fricking sucks
Better this (as far as I can see) than the end of the Roman Republic. Would be cool as shite to go to a Roman Triumph though.
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Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:02 am to OMLandshark
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Better this (as far as I can see) than the end of the Roman Republic
Rome had a far greater vitality and lifespan at the de facto end of the Republic than what I think we do now. Unless, of course, some Octavius emerges.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:05 am to HempHead
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Rome had a far greater vitality and lifespan at the de facto end of the Republic than what I think we do now. Unless, of course, some Octavius emerges.
Then you’re ignorant about their end. Way less civil toward their fellow citizens than we are now, and with an extreme fraction of the healthcare we do today. You have better medical treatment today than a Rockefeller did this time 100 years ago.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:06 am to OMLandshark
No shite. I'm talking about civilizational momentum.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:08 am to HempHead
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No shite. I'm talking about civilizational momentum.
If we were in Roman society was when Caesar took charge, we’d be in large scale war with the people who followed Biden. You would not be safe in your home.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 1:12 am
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:11 am to OMLandshark
Again, I'm talking about the civilization. Do you think America will last for another 1500 years?
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:11 am to HempHead
quote:I'd prefer a Marcus Aurelius.
Unless, of course, some Octavius emerges.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:13 am to Drewbie
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I'd prefer a Marcus Aurelius.
Meditations is tGOAT.
I don't think an Aurelius is one to seize and consolidate power, though. His actions and thoughts are of someone quite secure in their authority.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:13 am to HempHead
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Again, I'm talking about the civilization. Do you think America will last for another 1500 years?
No, but I’m not going to contemplate what you all are saying my options are while I live in a free society.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:15 am to OMLandshark
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No, but I’m not going to contemplate what you all are saying my options are while I live in a free society.
We are only free insomuch that we can consume and bleat our respective opinions.
There will come a time - who knows when, I am not prescient - when there will be terrible decisions that have to be made, or we will be ruthlessly pressed under a boot.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 1:17 am
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:19 am to HempHead
quote:I've had the absolute pleasure of listening to recordings of lectures on the writings by professor Michael Sugrue during his time at Princeton around 1995. Pure intellectual euphoria.
Meditations is tGOAT.
quote:I know it doesn't quite match the temperament of a conqueror but I'd give up everything if it meant this country got some logic-based stoic leadership right now.
I don't think an Aurelius is one to seize and consolidate power, though.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:01 am to Antwaan Rebel Yell
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Lol Ok....
Voluntarily taking on a two front war with Britain and the Soviet Union was bad enough. Declaring war on the US just to keep up the Axis "Pact of Steel" LARP was complete and utter proof that the man had no ability to calculate military risk. He got lucky early on because he was bold and Western European leadership was crusty and ripe for the picking. He took these early successes as signs of his own genius. When you end up purging men like Erwin Rommel, you really don't know what the f#&% you're doing.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 5:14 am to TbirdSpur2010
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The greatest threat to the United States as the world's superpower isn't an external force. It's the people within tearing it down, IMHO.
The real problem comes with this: who has the power projection to save the United States from the socialist-communist menace within its' own borders? Better yet, who is going to save the world when the power vacuum is sealed and the socialist-communist menace seeks to impose its' will on the rest of the planet? This is shaping up to be a very dark century ahead for North America and the Earth at large.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 5:26 am to Stealth Matrix
The issue is that the left has a death grip on American culture. All forms of entertainment, technology, education, etc. are largely dominated by the left. Until control is regained of the mouthpieces of the country and we can return to bipartisan broadcasts and the de-politicization of media, this influence is only going to continue to grow.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 5:31 am to Bass Tiger
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Hitler was probably aware of the progressive academics that made there way to America from Europe in the early 1900’s.....he knew their poisonous ideology based in socialism/communism would eventually infest our educational system. The birth of identity politics based in victimhood was directly fomented by these European socialists.
I’m joining this party late and I’m going off topic but Hitler absolutely knew of these progressives. He saw with his own eyes (at least he thought he saw) that the progressives undermined the German war effort on the home front during WWI and he put the blame squarely on them as to why Germany lost.
Now go look and see who were a lot of the foot soldiers, agitators, and leaders amongst many of the progressive ideologies. Many of them were Jews, and that is one of the biggest reasons Hitler hated Jews.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 5:38 am
Posted on 6/22/20 at 5:35 am to tiggerthetooth
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Yes and if you listen to geopolitics guys like Peter Zeihan, geographically, energy-wise, resources,
He was right about resources and location, but you just saw what the Arabs and Russians could do to our energy sector.
We have lots of oil so it’s true we do not have to try on anyone for it, but the ME can make it cheaper.
Also, with the huge pushes to go to renewable energy and electric cars, precious metals are becoming more and more valuable. Guess which country has a massive geographic advantage there and who doesn’t give two shots about the environment making it cheaper and easier for them to produce them?
Posted on 6/22/20 at 7:19 am to DesScorp
Here lies the beauty of the constitution in that it lays power at the feet of the states to better serve those within them. Over our history as a nation, we have seen more and more power centralized in DC. We may now be near the point of fracture. But, Trump had stalled it somewhat. His handling of the pandemic placed authority back in the hands of the governors as did his handling of the riots.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 7:35 am to HempHead
I would take a Cincinnatus right now.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:56 pm to Drewbie
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The issue is that the left has a death grip on American culture. All forms of entertainment, technology, education, etc. are largely dominated by the left.
Indeed.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 3:21 pm to Bass Tiger
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Hitler was probably aware of the progressive academics that made there way to America from Europe in the early 1900’s,
If he wasn't aware of them, surely Horkheimer, Adorno, Marcuse, Frenkel and their other fellow cabalists were aware of him and were motivated to get the hell out of their revisionist marxist nest they called home - the Institute for Social Research - and brought their virulent contempt for Western Culture here with them, along with the slick methodologies to corrupt it.
No longer any need to speculate on their results.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 3:36 pm
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