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re: Current Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick took children to Epstein island in 2012

Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:55 pm to
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he had no reason to lie about cutting ties with Epstein, he chose to do that.


Uh, what?

Everybody who had ever come in contact with Epstein has put distance between them and Epstein. Of course many of them lied. Are we still talking Lutnik as a rapist, or are we down to he's a liar? That I could believe before the files. About just about anyone.
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 12:55 pm to
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yeah, because when planning a dinner with a known sex trafficker you should also make sure you list every kid you are bringing by age, rather than just saying we have 4 kids.


Pizza party?
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12023 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:00 pm to
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You realize they can censor videos and pictures much like they did for the ones they did release right?


They have released some videos. I saw one. It was on X. Nothing sexual, but disturbing all the same. Dude was chasing two girls around the kitchen. The girls had been blacked out to conceal their identities. Even that much was off putting and very creepy. It only gets worse from there. There are pictures of him in the bathtub holding hands with girls who have very small hands.

It's fricking disgusting.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:09 pm to
I feel like the current system is too corrupt for good to overcome evil.

I would hate to see what it takes to finally reset things because it will happen eventually

we have hot tub photos of the former president of the United States Bill Clinton with Epstein.

We have emails between Epstein and the current Prime Minister of Israel.

corruption has embedded itself so deeply that good was unable to triumph over it.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 1:11 pm
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2965 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:10 pm to
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This stuff here gets pretty dark if you follow the rabbit hole down. It's not really worth talking about here though, because it will just attract the usual suspects who will flock in and scream everyone is crazy until they're blue in the face. Suffice to say, these people are disgusting individuals.


you find a sinister implication in the simple question of if he plans to bring his wife and kids?

it's interesting that you used the idiom of down the rabbit hole. i suspect you're not familiar with that idiom's common usage it's equivalent to a "wild goose chase"

you are truly and profoundly a stupid bumpkin.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27228 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:12 pm to
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you find a sinister implication in the simple question of if he plans to bring his wife and kids?

you have kids? when is the last time you told a friend you were visiting and felt the need to list all of the kids ages? was that friend also convicted of molesting a 14 year old before you told him you were bringing two 14 year olds to visit?
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17967 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:45 pm to
Where do people go now to find reliable findings for things like this? I don't really trust the media, and different smaller outlets or sites don't really have much more credibility than posters on X.

It feels like it has really come down to independent journalists that had credibility and left their outlets, like Herridge, Atkinson, or Taibi.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2965 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:49 pm to
yes jethro i'm 64 years old i have two grown kids and been married for 41 years so i've seen a bit of life. the only 14 year old i've seen mentioned any where is the 16 year old former teenage prostitute who was 14 when she had a pimp most the other girls where in the early mid twenties.

pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children not sexually mature young women.

Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12023 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:52 pm to
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you find a sinister implication in the simple question of if he plans to bring his wife and kids?

it's interesting that you used the idiom of down the rabbit hole. i suspect you're not familiar with that idiom's common usage it's equivalent to a "wild goose chase"

you are truly and profoundly a stupid bumpkin.


Thanks for proving my point, dip shite. I didn't even post the dark tangentially related shite to this, yet here you are anyways doing exactly what I said you would do.

Dance, monkey.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12023 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:55 pm to
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the only 14 year old i've seen mentioned any where is the 16 year old former teenage prostitute


Amazing how this sack of shite refers to this victim as a prostitute. Next he will be saying it was all ok, because who cares, they were just runaways anyways.
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:57 pm to
Wild how so many in trumps sphere seem to keep coming up in these files. The director for the Melania grift was also pictured with Epstein cuddling up on some girls.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10728 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 1:59 pm to
They’re all scum
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71226 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:05 pm to
It isn't that shocking when you remember they all were democrats when this stuff was going on.
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2965 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:11 pm to
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Amazing how this sack of shite refers to this victim as a prostitute. Next he will be saying it was all ok, because who cares, they were just runaways anyways.


well she was in fact a prostitute, with a pimp arrested for prostitution what would like me to call her cletis the virgin mary?

by way the pimp wasn't epstein it was another guy who gets off scot free.

most the girls i've seen mentioned were in their 20's like the 26 year old artist from new york city who visited epstein at his new mexico ranch.

is 26 considered a baby in your mobile home park?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65894 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:12 pm to
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yeah, because when planning a dinner with a known sex trafficker you should also make sure you list every kid you are bringing by age, rather than just saying we have 4 kids.


He was a known sex trafficker in 2012? I don't remember hearing anything about him until years after that, and then he was arrested in 2019.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27228 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:48 pm to
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He was a known sex trafficker in 2012? I don't remember hearing anything about him until years after that, and then he was arrested in 2019.

Howard Lutnick said in an interview that a 2005 visit to Jeffrey Epstein’s home left him so revolted that he cut ties with Epstein.

So he knew in 2005 according to his own Testimony

Epstein was also convicted in 2008, so a guy that visited him in 2005 wouldve known about it before visiting him again in 2012.

On June 30, 2008, Epstein pleaded guilty in Florida state court to two felony charges: solicitation of prostitution and procurement of minors for prostitution.
Sentence: He was sentenced to 18 months in the Palm Beach County jail, followed by a year of community control (probation). He ultimately served approximately 13 months before being released on probation in July 2009.
Sex Offender Status: The conviction required Epstein to register as a sex offender for life.

Federal Immunity: In exchange for the state plea, federal prosecutors agreed not to bring federal sex trafficking or child pornography charges against Epstein or several co-conspirators.

This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 2:49 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71226 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:51 pm to
I didn't realize his public comments and this random meet up was 7 years apart.

Are you not concerned with Michael and Marcy Lehrman because they aren't famous pedos or because they didn't publicly distance themselves from Epstein beforehand like Lutnik?
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27228 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 2:57 pm to
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Are you not concerned with Michael and Marcy Lehrman because they aren't famous pedos or because they didn't publicly distance themselves from Epstein beforehand like Lutnik?

From the emails it reads as if Lutnick is introducing them to Epstein.

Do you have other info showing that they already knew and were friends with Epstein?

Also do we even know who they are or where they are today? Are they alive and are their children ok?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26540 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
12023 posts
Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:03 pm to
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He was a known sex trafficker in 2012?


Yes.
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