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re: Current Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick took children to Epstein island in 2012

Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:03 pm to
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:03 pm to
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Also do we even know who they are or where they are today? Are they alive and are their children ok?


How should I know? The only thing I know about Lutnik that I don't know about them is what they do for a living.

I assumed the one of us sincerely concerned about the content of the sinister email would have these answers already. Is it a smoking gun or not?
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 3:04 pm
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:06 pm to
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How should I know? The only thing I know about Lutnik that I don't know about them is what they do for a living.

Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:16 pm to
Howard Lutnick, his wife, their children and another couple and their children went to have lunch and I assume a business meeting. If they were going there to participate in something nefarious they wouldn't carry their families with them. With that being said even doing business with that scumbag after 2011 doesnt look good.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:16 pm to
Why is that funny? Is this where you pretend to know him personally or something?

What if the Lehrmans are former Democrats and current Trump supporters? You'd care then right?

Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:19 pm to
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Why is that funny? Is this where you pretend to know him personally or something?

What if the Lehrmans are former Democrats and current Trump supporters? You'd care then right?


If the Lehrmans knew Jeffrey Epstein and took other people and their kids to his island and were currently going on TV saying they cut ties with Jeffrey Epstein long before it happened and were working in politics yes I would care and would call them out whether they were left/right/independent.

we don't need leaders engaged in blackmail/bribery/extortion/rape/murder with Epstein/Mossad because they are compromised and forced to protect those peoples interests rather than ours.
Posted by Jasharts77
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:22 pm to
Like it or not. Zion Don is most likely a pdf. If you still blindly support this mess you need to have your own computer and phone checked out too
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:24 pm to
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If you still blindly support this mess you need to have your own computer and phone checked out too

GRTiger hasn't gone as far as supporting it but he's doing his damnedest to defend Lutnick
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:26 pm to
I'm defending honesty. You're murdering it. I don't give a shite about Lutnik and would love to break his skull if he's a pedo.

What you have presented is only enough evidence for dishonest people and retards.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:27 pm to
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I'm defending honesty.

The honesty where Lutnick said he cut all ties with Epstein after 2005?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:28 pm to
I never disputed that. Did you notice?

Was he an honest guy the 7 years between the events?
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:29 pm to
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Was he an honest guy the 7 years between the events?

No. You don't go no contact for 7 years and then show up to someones house with guests.
This post was edited on 2/1/26 at 3:30 pm
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:30 pm to
Also just because they had a lunch or business meeting with him in which they took their families in no way means they were involved in blackmail, trafficking, extortion, rape or murder. Thats quite a jump. There are going to be many people of both sides that had business dealing with him that knew nothing about any of that. What looks bad is having any dealing with him after his conviction. But just because they knew of that because it was public knowledge doesnt mean they knew about the rest. I think most reasonable people though wouldn't have anything to do with a person that was convicted of that.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:32 pm to
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had business dealing with him that knew nothing about any of that

Lutnick claimed that what he witnessed when visiting Epsteins home in 2005 disgusted him so much that he cut all ties.

What do you think he was referring to that he found so disgusting? His rug didnt match the drapes?
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:33 pm to
Did you notice when I said I can definitely be on board with Lutnik being a liar? It was several pages back. There are probably more public examples of him lying if you look.

I assume you didn't notice since you keep implying that you aren't dishonest.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:47 pm to
His quote doesnt match up. Epstein was allowed to get a plea deal under the Obama administration where he plead guilty to paying for a prostitute that was later discovered to be under the age of 18. Why would the doj allow him to escape federal charges and plead down to that state charge in which he did 13 months in minimal security and allowed to leave daily to run his businesses. I dont really see anyone mentioning that. If the Trump administration allowed that to happen everyone would be up in arms.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:52 pm to
You sure it wasn't W?
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 3:55 pm to
Also after further investigation this email was not sent to Lutnick. It was sent to a secretary that worked in his office. So is it completely impossible that the secretary had went through emails to set up a meeting that Lutnick had no intentions on taking. Lutnick has said since that he spent zero time with Epstein.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:03 pm to
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Why would the doj allow him to escape federal charges and plead down to that state charge in which he did 13 months in minimal security and allowed to leave daily to run his businesses. I dont really see anyone mentioning that.

because he was a CIA/Mossad agent.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:13 pm to
It was under W in 08. He entered prison in 09.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 2/1/26 at 4:38 pm to
This guy is a politician. Registered democrat until 2016
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