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re: Culture of peace shoots a 5 year old in front of his family

Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:05 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:05 pm to
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Why do you assume this? Simply because he knows that blacks have an average IQ of 85? Are white people supposed to pretend that we don't know this?
Yep

That's where we are as a society. We have to pretend things are true that literally no one even believes......not even blacks.

It's isn't remotely racist to observe that the black population has a substantially higher instance of low IQ individuals. It would be racist to say this meant that all blacks were dumb. Which, of course, isn't the case at all.

Bell Curves overlap. But, pretending one curve isn't shifted is just head in sand syndrome
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:07 pm to
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4 openly racist
You can't even define the word

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It's terrible for the brand. When Trump loses and the country is truly fricked I hope you are proud of your contribution.
Trump can only be in office MAX 4 years more.

In 4 years, we will STILL have the same problem and, if, as a society, we are still asked to pretend that all differing outcomes can only be explained by racism, we'll be no further along.
Posted by TwoFace
Member since Mar 2018
1293 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:10 pm to
Why the dad didn't kill him immediately is beyond me. He would've never made it to his booking photo.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 1:16 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:11 pm to
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Bell Curves overlap. But, pretending one curve isn't shifted is just head in sand syndrome
Agreed.

It is also "head in sand" to deny that SOME of that leftward shift MIGHT be due to issues other than innate intelligence, such as environment and education.

But each "side" sees what they want to see in any data set.

If everyone would seek to UNDERSTAND the numbers from ANY study, rather than simply CITING them to support presuppositions, we would all be better off.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:12 pm to
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But you can convince my brother or neighbor who might support Trump if some of the most vocal Trump supporters frequenting these forums weren't openly racist pricks and making the liberals look like they are correct



So your brother and neighbor are retarded.

No wonder you are angry , you should distance yourself from those tards.
Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Such people are simply completely ill equipped to operate in society.

His only purpose he’s served in life was for his mother to experience childbirth
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:14 pm to
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Does anyone else suspect that the father and the shooter were "business associates?"
Why would someone think that?
A combination of experience, literacy and a functioning cerebrum?
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 1:17 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:17 pm to
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It is also "head in sand" to deny that SOME of that leftward shift MIGHT be due to issues other than innate intelligence, such as environment and education.


SOME

Alas, the results are rather consistent worldwide.

Moreover, some standardized results completely defy the issues you bring up.

For example. On standardized tests as early as Elementary school, blacks score WORSE than the children of 1st generation Mexican immigrants...…...IN ENGLISH!!!

We need to get past this complete inability to think of any difference in population outcomes as being anything other than caused by bias.

You CANNOT even begin to address a problem if there's complete refusal to even contemplate certain causes.

For example. If you can't discuss the race element to uneven educational outcomes, all of your "solutions" are doomed to fail because they'll attempt to solve things that aren't causing the problem.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3751 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:20 pm to
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It is also "head in sand" to deny that SOME of that leftward shift MIGHT be due to issues other than innate intelligence, such as environment and education.


I agree it could be due in part influenced by those things, but that’s no excuse. And let’s be honest, people are looking for an excuse. And after the excuses come the blame of other for those problems, instead of looking inward for the solution.
Posted by September 1948
Member since Jun 2018
2133 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:22 pm to
I read the article. The POS killed the kid because the kid rode his bike onto the POS's yard.

I have seen some discrepancies in the stories. One place says across the street neighbors; the other says next door. Regardless, there is no self control in some persons.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:27 pm to
Black males aged 15-28 are the most dangerous animals currently on earth. A slight bump in a grocery store aisle can be interpreted as disrespect and, well, you know the rest of the story. I avoid whenever possible.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:39 pm to
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It is also "head in sand" to deny that SOME of that leftward shift MIGHT be due to issues other than innate intelligence, such as environment and education.
SOME

Alas, the results are rather consistent worldwide.
Not really. To make that sort of assertion, one must examine a place where Blacks do NOT face environmental and educational hurdles greater than other races. The first place I considered was Britain, but I was not able to find any hard data. Then "Bermuda" popped into my head, as a largely-Black population with a British education system and a stronger economy than found in the Caribbean. This article examines that question, including conflicting studies which show (a) essentially zero cognitive discrepancies and (b) existing discrepancies significantly smaller than those found in the US.
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According to the 2000 census, Bermuda is 54.8% black and 34.1% white. IQ and the Wealth of Nations (2002) did not include intelligence data for Bermuda, but IQ and Global Inequality (2006) reported an IQ of 90, as the average of two studies. In this post I discuss some overlooked data which suggest that Bermudian blacks have an IQ that is very close to 100, and that there is no IQ gap between black and white Bermudians. There is also some overlooked test data which suggest otherwise, and we are left with some uncertainty over the meaning of the conflicting research.
But let's look at Europe as a case study on IQ variance within a population that is (comparatively) homogeneous (mostly "White").



Are we to accept that Montenegrins and Albanians are inherently/genetically a FULL STANDARD DEVIATION dumber than their Italian cousins (who live less than 100 miles away), with whom they have been interbreeding for thousands of years.

Or is there some other explanation? Perhaps the fact that the Montenegrins and Albanians alive today grew up in a dirt-poor country, with crap government and crap education?
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We need to get past this complete inability to think of any difference in population outcomes as being anything other than caused by bias.

You CANNOT even begin to address a problem if there's complete refusal to even contemplate certain causes
Agree 100%.

To be clear, sub-Saharan Africans and Europeans have largely evolved separately for somewhere between 50k and 100k years, and it is not at all unreasonable to think that different traits might have evolved in the two vastly different environments. Hell, the two environments produced two VASTLY different physical phenotypes, so it is not inherently implausible to surmise that intelligence may also have evolved differently as well.

"Not inherently implausible" does not mean that evolution DID work that way, but I agree with you that it IS bad science to dismiss the possibility for purely political or social reasons. Personally, I doubt that the period of separation has been long enough for a trait like intelligence to have diverged significantly trhough evolution, but that will be a tough one to prove ... either way.

As an aside, how long do you think it will be before one of the resident brain trust asserts that I have just opined that Blacks are genetically inferior to Whites? I give it less than an hour.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 2:12 pm
Posted by September 1948
Member since Jun 2018
2133 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 1:44 pm to
I agree. At first I had a theory that the kid maybe bumped into the POS's car and left a little scratch.

Then I saw a pic of the hooptie Corolla with the front bumper missing. The scratch would have been an improvement.

Yep, after that little bump in the grocery store he would have called a mob and beat you into a small grease spot on the parking lot.

There are many reasons I live where I live.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
75103 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:49 pm to
If Obama had a son.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
154569 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:52 pm to
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I give it less than an hour.


Welp?
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
30250 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:56 pm to
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Those little girls will be scarred for life.


and afraid of black people
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:56 pm to
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Welp?
I was wrong. Should have considered age of the thread and declining readership.

I just hope Shorty returns. Interesting discussion.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 2:57 pm to
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Are we to accept that Montenegrins and Albanians are inherently/genetically a FULL STANDARD DEVIATION dumber than their Italian cousins (who live less than 100 miles away), with whom they have been interbreeding for thousands of years.


It's called brain drain and, it's a very real phenomenon. One seen in spades in Afghanistan.

Basically, if a place is particularly shitty, everyone ABLE to leave, does. In Afghanistan, it's nigh on impossible to find qualified to people to run anything because everyone who has skills would prefer to go somewhere where having your children blown up isn't a daily potentiality. Which, of course, I completely understand. I'd leave too. As you can imagine, this will obviously affect population average IQ.

This self selection bias also exists in the Bahamas if you think about it. Just the other direction. People of some means will obviously gravitate TO their which will tend to level off discrepancies given the relatively small population.

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:01 pm to
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It's called brain drain
interesting supposition re Albania and Montenegro. Any data?

As to Bermuda and "reverse brain drain," don't they have pretty strict immigration guidelines? I don't see them admitting too many Caribbeans from non-British territories. (I don't think they have a choice as to British citizens).

Not sure how the Bahamas fits the discussion, as I have not researched demographics there. My guess is that it is more-Caribbean than Bermuda (which is why I looked at Bermuda).
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 3:04 pm to
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interesting supposition re Albania and Montenegro. Any data?


As you said, it's a supposition.

And, it's based on real world experience not to mention a healthy dose of common sense.

Hell, we experience it right here in the U.S. all the time.

If you live in a shitty crime ridden neighborhood, and, thru your smarts, you achieve the ability to leave, you do. Or at least many do. Let's not act like I'm talking quantum physics here. I'm articulating a reality you full well know.

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Not sure how the Bahamas fits the discussion, as I have not researched demographics there. My guess is that it is more-Caribbean than Bermuda (which is why I looked at Bermuda).
Ha

I read "Bermuda" and my brain said Bahamas!
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