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Covid vaccination shots are at best only 10% effective...

Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:04 am
Posted by TigerGman
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:04 am
It is roughly 10%. Pfizer is 93% effective and Moderna close behind. J & J is only 66% effective. That doesn't even account for those that only got one shot when they're supposed to get two. Multiply that by 169 million US citizens vaccinated at say a very generous 10% over all effectiveness rate, and that's potentially 17 million vaccinated that will still get Covid.

So when I hear all these anecdotal stories about so and so got vaccinated and still got Covid I think, so what? It's to be expected.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
6434 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:05 am to
Fall lockdown is coming.

Bet
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94994 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:09 am to
If-

1. The shot doesn’t stop you from getting Covid
2. It makes you a super spreader if you get Covid again
3. You have to constantly get boosters in order to keep it “effective”
And
4. There are large known side effects not being publicized at a rate on par with bad effects of getting Covid

Why would one get the shot?
Posted by CatholicLSUDude
Member since Aug 2018
755 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:10 am to
You don't math very well, do you?
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7834 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Why would one get the shot?


The only answer I can give for this is that it is widely reported that if you are vaccinated, the severity of the virus is diminished.

I can get behind that, especially for those who are unhealthy and are likely to have a rough go of it.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
94994 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:12 am to


/SteinerMath
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120217 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:12 am to
quote:

It is roughly 10%. Pfizer is 93% effective and Moderna close behind. J & J is only 66% effective. That doesn't even account for those that only got one shot when they're supposed to get two. Multiply that by 169 million US citizens vaccinated at say a very generous 10% over all effectiveness rate, and that's potentially 17 million vaccinated that will still get Covid.


Show your work

Your math is awful
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:14 am to
quote:

So when I hear all these anecdotal stories about so and so got vaccinated and still got Covid I think, so what? It's to be expected.


Same with non-anecdotal stories.

Why do you believe anything anyone says anymore.

Do your own risk assessment. Live your life.

Stop the fear. Stop the fear mongering.
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
14814 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:14 am to
quote:

The shot doesn’t stop you from getting Covid


Nothing is 100 percent. The vaccine helps prevent you from getting it. If you were to get it, most of the times is mild.

quote:

t makes you a super spreader if you get Covid again


Nope.

quote:

You have to constantly get boosters in order to keep it “effective”


For some. Younger people may keep their immunity much longer.

quote:

There are large known side effects not being publicized at a rate on par with bad effects of getting Covid


No.

quote:

Why would one get the shot?


Because it decreased your risk of dying or getting seriously ill exponentially.

And grants you protection against getting it out getting a symptomatic case of it.

The risks from the vaccine, outside of extremely young people is exponentially less than the risk of the virus.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:16 am to
quote:

Multiply that by 169 million US citizens vaccinated at say a very generous 10% over all effectiveness


nonsense from out your arse.

the effectiveness of moderna is that you do not need icu and you do not die.
95% are protected that way.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56276 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:19 am to
quote:

t makes you a super spreader if you get Covid again


Nope.
Yep.

Evidence mounts that people with breakthrough infections can spread Delta easily
Posted by The Shed
Member since Mar 2019
816 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:21 am to
Fake news
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25331 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:21 am to
quote:

It is roughly 10%. Pfizer is 93% effective and Moderna close behind. J & J is only 66% effective.


Please show your work on how you got 10% from 93%.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 8:23 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25331 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:22 am to
quote:

Evidence mounts that people with breakthrough infections can spread Delta easily


Anyone with Covid infections can spread Covid.
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11192 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Show your work

Your math is awful



quote:

It is roughly 10%. Pfizer is 93% effective and Moderna close behind. J & J is only 66% effective. That doesn't even account for those that only got one shot when they're supposed to get two. Multiply that by 169 million US citizens vaccinated at say a very generous 10% over all effectiveness rate, and that's potentially 17 million vaccinated that will still get Covid.

So when alI hear all these anecdotal stories about so and so got vaccinated and still got Covid I think, so what?
Could be but what's wrong with it?

CDC LINK

This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 8:26 am
Posted by AmishSamurai
Member since Feb 2020
2658 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:28 am to
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
11192 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:30 am to
quote:

Please show your work on how you got 10% from 93%


Ok. This time I'll go slow so you can follow along. I said AT BEST. 93% is only for 2 of the 3 shots. J&J is only 66%, so factor that in AND The fact many people only get 1 shot instead of 2, I'd say 10% is being pretty generous. But so say you are right. 7% of 169 million is?
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6504 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Ok. This time I'll go slow so you can follow along. I said AT BEST. 93% is only for 2 of the 3 shots. J&J is only 66%, so factor that in AND The fact many people only get 1 shot instead of 2, I'd say 10% is being pretty generous. But so say you are right. 7% of 169 million is?


Please show us the steps you took to get from 93% - 66% effective to 10% effective lmfao
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56276 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:18 am to
quote:

Anyone with Covid infections can spread Covid.

Yeah, apparently more easily if they are "vaccinated."

Bonus coverage:

COVID Vaccines Linked to Functional Neurological Disorders
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 8/23/21 at 9:21 am to
quote:

the effectiveness of moderna is that you do not need icu and you do not die. 95% are protected that way.


quote:

nonsense from out your arse.


If you think any of these numbers reflect the reality of the situation.
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