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re: COVID-1984 was created in a Wuhan Lab? MSM “fact-checkers” said it was a crazy conspiracy:

Posted on 12/30/22 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 6:24 pm to
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Look who it is, it's always been the same enemy




https://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/39
Posted by THog
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 6:27 pm to
Fact check means they dont want you to look or think.

Can find where the dude at UNC had engineered a coronvirus from 1st SARS virus and added a surface protein in 2015. So is clear people at home have been fricking around with such things. Wonder if they just outsourced production to china like everything else?

Anyone remember humanized mice? Meaning mice gene edited to have humanized ace 2 receptors.
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 6:51 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 6:31 pm to
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I have a feeling there is a lot of stuff in Ukraine they don't want us knowing about.


As if what we already know as fact is not damning enough.

Yet tools like SloMo simply regurgitate Deep State talking points about this war all the while accusing other posters of being unable to formulate an original thought.



Posted by Texdelmag
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 7:16 pm to
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the "lab leak" hypothesis and the "man-made" hypothesis are 2 very different things


Are they though?
Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 7:20 pm to
Didn’t the search engines change the location of the lab (there is more than one “in Wuhan”) so it would be the site located farthest away from the market (as opposed to the lab a few hundred yards away).

Posted by jimmy the leg
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 7:27 pm to
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Thinking China created a bioweapon and intentionally released it? Meh. China is still fricking itself over to combat Covid. They're hurting more than anyone right now, so were they just committing suicide?


Western logic...no.

CCP “let’s kill a bunch of old, useless people because we don’t have a large enough “working age” population to support them” logic:

Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 7:43 pm to
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COVID-1984
Is this intended as an Orwell reference?
Posted by AggieHank86
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 7:45 pm to
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Who’s fact checking the fact checkers?
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 8:48 pm to
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Is this intended as an Orwell reference?


Nothing escapes your eagle eye.

Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 8:49 pm to
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They need to start hearing from us and feeling the heat for their lies.


Stop it. Nobody is gong to do anything. Americans sho7uld have pulled out the guillotines years ago. Americans are weak, frightened cowards
This post was edited on 12/30/22 at 8:51 pm
Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 9:09 pm to
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There were 2 competing hypotheses running.

One was an accidental leak summarized as "lab leak" and one was a biological weapon intentionally released, summarized as "man made". Many posters on this board would conflate the 2 and it was a mess to attempt any discussion.

I never observed anyone assuming that there were two "competing" hypotheses. I have just seen a couple of way of describing various combinations of possibilities.

- the dumb take is to try 'analyzing this into only TWO hypotheses. There are several - but all involve various combinations of stark incompetence, purposeful "scientific" research, and/or execution of a plan to develop a biological weapon. There are other variations also.

And THEN there are the options for how it got into the public - unforeseeable leak in spite of concentrated containment procedures, unsurprising leak due to incompetent procedures and personnel, planned release to create a health panic, first strike in a biological warfare attack. and other variations.

for you to think you have boiled all this down to TWO scenarios and you are trying to teach us unworthies something is quite objectionable in my view.

The meaning of most posts on this subject are clear from the context of their content and the post they are responding to. And as always some are so disjointed they are better ignored.

you are as much a deterrent in the overall quality of the thread as you are its supposed 'savior' - relax.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:11 pm to
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you are as much a deterrent in the overall quality of the thread as you are its supposed 'savior'


That stands equally well for SFP’s overall contributions to this forum.

Hank’s dry, caustic wit at least provides a chuckle from time to time.

SloMo really contributes little to this board beyond his own elevated opinion of his imagined superior intellect.

Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 10:51 pm to
Most “conspiracy theorists” felt the virus was altered in the lab, and then accidentally released due to sloppy procedures at the lab. This has now moved from a conspiracy theory to a very plausible theory.

Although the Chinese may not have intentionally released it, they knowingly locked down internal travel while allowing travel outside of China. This act was reckless and intentional, and was probably done to ensure that the rest of the world would suffer economically along with China.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/30/22 at 11:40 pm to
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Thinking China created a bioweapon and intentionally released it
no it was man-made and some idiot fricked up and let it leak. Both conspiracy theories in 2020-21 but both true IMO.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 9:49 am to
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UncleFestersLegs


Even more unsettling is the fact our wholly corrupted national security apparatus funded this research.



The Pentagon gave $39 MILLION to Dr. Peter Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance - the charity that funded coronavirus research at the Wuhan lab accused of being the source of the outbreak, federal data reveals

• Federal data seen by DailyMail.com reveals The Pentagon gave $39 million to EcoHealth Alliance, which funded a lab in Wuhan, China, between 2013 and 2020
• The Wuhan Institute of Virology is accused of being the source of Covid-19
• The majority of the DoD funding came from the DTRA, a military branch with a mission to 'counter and deter weapons of mass destruction and improvised threat networks'
• Federal grant data assembled by independent researchers shows that the charity has received more than $123 million from the government in total
• Grants from the Pentagon included $6,491,025 from the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) from 2017 to 2020
• EHA also received $64.7 million from the US Agency for International Development (USAID)
• It received $13 million from Health and Human Services, which includes the National Institutes of Health and Centers for Disease Control
• It is not known how much of the money actually went to the Wuhan lab
• EHA has also funded deeply controversial 'gain of function' experiments, where dangerous viruses are made more infectious to study their effect on human cells.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 9:58 am to
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MSM “fact-checkers” said it was a crazy
Well, they had pictures of a girl eating Bat Soup. So why would CV19 have come from a lab when the girl was clearly eating Bat Soup? Don't those disgusting pics pretty much prove CV19 didn't come from a lab?




This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 9:59 am
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 10:23 am to
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Well, they had pictures of a girl eating Bat Soup.


Posted by THog
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 12/31/22 at 12:19 pm to
Yeah. China has been eating bat soup for hundreds of years. Ive never bought that story, cause there would have been previous exposure.

All of the linked info in this thread is available to the world on the web. Consider what might be classified? And consider if they want the whole world looking at the Wuhan lab?
This post was edited on 12/31/22 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 7:57 pm to
Another of SFP’s Greatest Hits!

In recognition of the current thread demonstrating the unequivocal dumbassery of SloMo on the first page, here is SloMo demonstrating he has no clue what “Gain of Function” research means.

Now we can argue over whether COVID-1984 was maliciously leaked from a lab or whether it was an “accidental” leak— though we very likely will never know the true answer to that query since any inquiry into the matter must be vetted by China’s state security apparatus. Yet if COVID-1984 originated from GOF research — it was “leaked” from a lab.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/8/23 at 8:01 pm to
What issues do you have with this statement, specifically?

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the "lab leak" hypothesis and the "man-made" hypothesis are 2 very different things


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