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re: COVID-19 “Vaccine” Is Really A Dangerous Experimental Gene Therapy

Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:27 pm to
Posted by corneredbeast
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:27 pm to
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None of the vaccine sites in my area are doing the proper PEG allergy screening before giving the vaccine. I dont know how anyone could claim this is "safe." Is the risk low? Sure but it exists.



PEG is widely used in hand soaps and body wash. I guess they could have everyone wash their hands to see if they are allergic.




Also has other uses:

Posted by JakeRStephenes
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:51 pm to
Try some critical thinking. I read the article, and it cites the VAERS number of deaths. I stopped there.
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:01 pm to
You do realize that the vaccine uses RNA and genes are made up of DNA don’t you?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/13/21 at 9:02 pm to
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Are you implying negligence for not getting a vaccine?
No. IMO everyone needs to make their own choice, and own it.

I am simply pointing out that a young healthy person who needn't be concerned about CV19 in terms of their own health, could asymptomatically contract the disease, then inadvertently pass it to an elderly parent or grandparent with tragic results.
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 7:26 am to
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Just curious, what is the source of your quotes?

Not saying he’s not a quack, but there is a lot of misinformation and fake news being reported. I’d like to read the article.



All cited with sources in his wiki. Literally just google anything I posted and it’s the first thing that comes up, goddamn boomers.

Steven Hotze
Posted by cyarrr
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:26 am to
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All cited with sources in his wiki. Literally just google anything I posted and it’s the first thing that comes up, goddamn boomers.


Not a Boomer, common practice is to cite your source when quoting.

The doctor is likely a quack.

That said, articles from NPR, Vice... are always considered the bastion of truth because their reporting is always fair and balanced. We should never question their veracity, am I right? Goddamn Millennials.

This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 9:27 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:44 am to
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The doctor is likely a quack.
He is a total quack. Not even debatable. Inexplicable, as the UTMB is a solid med program, even more so when Hotze attended. Maybe the dude developed some sort of mental problem afterwards, but his quackery is well documented.
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:05 am to
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The annual flu shot doesn't provide 100% immunity either.


correct- big difference is the flu vaccine is safe.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:14 am to
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correct- big difference is the flu vaccine is safe.
Not by various definitions in this thread, it isn't. Allergic responses, Guillain-Barré, fainting during injection thereby hitting a table corner and sustaining a brain injury ... all could occur. Very dangerous stuff, these vaccines.
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:09 am to
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Not by various definitions in this thread, it isn't. Allergic responses, Guillain-Barré, fainting during injection thereby hitting a table corner and sustaining a brain injury ... all could occur. Very dangerous stuff, these vaccines.


There are common possible side effects, its a risk you take when you take any medication. Again these side effects are well known and the vaccine was studied for years- unlike the experimental gene therapy vaccines you seem to be in love with.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:11 am to
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There are common possible side effects, its a risk you take when you take any medication. Again these side effects are well known and the vaccine was studied for years- unlike the experimental gene therapy vaccines you seem to be in love with.


Isn’t the flu vaccine different every year?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:14 am to
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unlike the experimental gene therapy vaccines you seem to be in love with.
The mRNA vaccines which you erroneously refer to as """experimental gene therapy""" have been in work for >30 yrs.
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:16 am to
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The mRNA vaccines which you erroneously refer to as """experimental gene therapy""" have been in work for >30 yrs.



Correct- Covid-19 technology has been around for years- however this is the first vaccine ever produced using that technology.
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:23 am to
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The mRNA vaccines which you erroneously refer to as """experimental gene therapy""" have been in work for >30 yrs


You are correct- but this is the first vaccine using that technology.
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:26 am to
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Isn’t the flu vaccine different every year?


The virus causing the flu undergoes antigenic shift, i.e. it changes year to year so that is why the bug is still around.

The vaccine gets tweaked every year trying to cover this change in new viral structure but there will always be a new strain coming out the vaccine will not cover. The flu vaccine will prevent you from getting the known strains of years past.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:28 am to
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however this is the first vaccine ever produced using that technology.

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Covid-19 technology has been around for years
Covid-19 originated in 2019. Hence the "19". The first mRNA vaccine was developed experimentally in 1993. LINK
Posted by mikeytig
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:35 am to
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The first mRNA vaccine was developed experimentally in 1993. LINK



was not cleared by the FDA (like the current one)
was not mass produced, distributed to the world, and told by a bunch of liars the vaccine was safe.
Posted by RCDfan1950
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:44 am to
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They’re the dupes that got the “vaccine”.



I chose to take the gene-booster therapy as a shot in the dark to give me a symptom severity edge in case I caught the virus. I can not afford to be real sick, and not work. I'm 70, wife is 78 and will NOT take the vaccine; she won't take the yearly Flu one either. I chose to risk (future?) my own health re a limited time anyway, for upping our survival and prosperity stock; I accept the risk, and won't be downvoting those who choose whichever strategy. To each their own.

Charles Krauthammer said it well: "if you get your politics wrong, it ALL goes bad from there". If the Dems are successful with their Totalitarian/Fascist (Democracy-based) hegemony, then any and ALL decisions will come from them...down to you. If you refuse, you'll forfeit any and all Government access to services. I.e., you will not be able to "buy and sell".

Bottom line: It's not the current 'vaccine' that is the greatest threat to survival and prosperity, and that will determine personal and collective scenarios, but politics.
Major "fundamental transformation" is coming; but it won't be the Utopian version that the Secular Humanists Egalitarians imagine. At least not for long; likely about 7 years.

So. Good luck. Or God speed.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:46 am to
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The vaccine gets tweaked every year trying to cover this change
Negative. Antigenic shift can affect efficacy, but that has nothing to do with the yearly "tweaks".

There are four types of influenza viruses: A, B, C and D. Human influenza A and B viruses are the cause of our seasonal epidemics. There are a litany of viruses within the A/B category. i.e., 18 different hemagglutinin subtypes and 11 different neuraminidase subtypes in the A variety and 2 lineages for B.

Every year there is an attempt to anticipate the most likely epidemic flu virus. The yearly vaccine is designed to combat that particular virus. Often an unexpected strain hits, and the FluVax is ineffective in combatting it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 8:49 am to
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told by a bunch of liars the vaccine was safe
Liars like Trump?
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