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re: COVID-19 not found in isolation
Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:01 am to zatetic
Posted on 8/5/21 at 4:01 am to zatetic
quote:FIFY
COVID-19 / SARS-CoV-2 in isolation
COVID-19 / SARS-CoV-2 in isolation and attacking cells
Ultrastructural analysis of SARS-CoV-2 interactions with the host cell via high resolution scanning electron microscopy
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Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:00 am to Revelator
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Healthy or normal people don’t go from feeling fine to death in a few weeks from heart disease or cancer
If you have cancer or heart disease or some other serious, debilitating disease, by definition you’re not “healthy or normal” - so I don’t know what your point is. Perhaps you’re simply unaware of the fact that as I said in the post you responded to and will now re-state more clearly, the vast majority of so-called “Covid deaths” are people who were very sick/unwell (cancer, heart disease, etc) before they contracted the virus.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:32 am to teke184
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A strain of the flu perhaps?
For all the supposed Covid deaths we had last year, the year over year deaths didn’t seem to be significantly higher. While at the same time flu deaths seem to have disappeared.
I have pondered this possibility before --
Is there a source that has authoritative data on this statement?
I am sure it is a factor, but what the predominance of it is I do not know.
tia.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:51 am to jonnyanony
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Good lord
LINK
You don’t understand “excess deaths”.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:55 am to ChineseBandit58
There’s well over 400,000 more deaths in 2020 than there were in 2019. Preliminary numbers.
The number one would have expected to see is 40k-ish increase.
The number one would have expected to see is 40k-ish increase.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 6:56 am to David_DJS
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You don’t understand “excess deaths”.
Nice deflection. Excess deaths are deaths outside of a statistically probable baseline not within a threshold of standard deviation.
It's statistical inference and I'm happy to school you on the subject all day.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:02 am to jonnyanony
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It's statistical inference and I'm happy to school you on the subject all day.
That would be great. I look forward to it.
So in the context of the argument that the majority of people dying “Covid deaths” are sick before Covid, explain to me the significance of the threshold for “excess death” actually going down in spite of an increasing population, and a population that is aging (baby boomers getting nearer end of life).
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 7:03 am
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:06 am to David_DJS
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significance of the threshold for “excess death” actually going down in spite of an increasing population, and a population that is aging (baby boomers getting nearer end of life).
This one's easy: that didn't happen. 2.8M total deaths in 2019, 3.5M total deaths in 2020.
You have no clue what you're talking about.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:09 am to zatetic
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Also America’s Frontline Doctors tried isolating it.
It has not been isolated.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:11 am to jonnyanony
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This one's easy: that didn't happen. 2.8M total deaths in 2019, 3.5M total deaths in 2020.
You have no clue what you're talking about.
Now wait. You said you’re an expert, ready to school me. Then you make a mistake in your first schooling post.
Did I ask about deaths from year to year? No, I didn’t. So why did you answer like I did?
I asked about the threshold for excess deaths - and what the significance is that the threshold can drop over time in spite of a growing and aging population.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:12 am to David_DJS
That also didn't happen. Sorry, you're not great at constructing cogent sentences either.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:13 am to David_DJS
This isn't super complicated. Deaths went up. More than expected, using the same variance and measurements used from 2018-2019 to 2019-2020. (This is actually discussed in the study i linked)
If all or a majority of these deaths were due to cancer, heart disease, etc as you claim, this would not have happened.
It makes your argument laughable on its face.
If all or a majority of these deaths were due to cancer, heart disease, etc as you claim, this would not have happened.
It makes your argument laughable on its face.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 7:16 am
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:18 am to jonnyanony
quote:
This isn't super complicated. Deaths went up. More than expected, using the same variance and measurements used from 2018-2019 to 2019-2020. (This is actually discussed in the study i linked)
If all or a majority of these deaths were due to cancer, heart disease, etc as you claim, this would not have happened.
Multivariate regression says otherwise but you do you.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:18 am to NC_Tigah
Nice post. I wish these idiots would just self identify as Q so people can just ignore their conspiracy nonsense.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:19 am to jonnyanony
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That also didn't happen. Sorry, you're not great at constructing cogent sentences eith
It actually does and did, genius.
Your mistake is believing this is about statistics. It’s not. It’s about how deaths from the perspective of the excess death metric comes/goes in waves.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:21 am to monstranceclock76
quote:Just look at the top of this page.
It has not been isolated
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:21 am to jonnyanony
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It makes your argument laughable on its face.
What it actually does is makes clear that you don’t understand the whole discussion.
This post was edited on 8/5/21 at 7:24 am
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:22 am to mmcgrath
quote:You can't remember which were into that?
Nice post. I wish these idiots would just self identify as Q so people can just ignore their conspiracy nonsense
Posted on 8/5/21 at 7:26 am to David_DJS
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Your mistake is believing this is about statistics. It’s not. It’s about how deaths from the perspective of the excess death metric comes/goes in waves.
This is nonsensical. Sorry.
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