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re: Court rules ICE violating Constitutional rights

Posted on 2/15/26 at 12:34 pm to
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/15/26 at 12:34 pm to
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U.S. District Judge Nancy Brasel said it appeared the Trump administration had surged law enforcement into the Twin Cities without accounting for “the constitutional rights of its civil detainees” held by Immigration and Customs Enforcement.


what rights did he violate? They broke the law and got arrested and deported.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128717 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 12:46 pm to
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A Trump appointee and a legit question.


It is wild that Trump appointed a leftist judge. Agreed.
Posted by chatterbait
Member since Feb 2026
204 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 12:49 pm to
What does civil rights imply.
- The leftist’s brain
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
13695 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 12:50 pm to
They’re just making shite up now because of the way they FEEL about it
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2358 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 12:55 pm to
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For the 56,321st time: ILLEGAL INVADERS DON'T HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS


Tell the Administration this. ICE and DHS admit in this case that noncitizen aliens have a right to access counsel.
Furthermore, they have basically accepted the plaintiff's facts that the right to access counsel has been denied.

It is another example, in my opinion, of a very poor showing by our U.S. Attorneys. I don't know if they are over worked, understaffed, and/or just incompetent - but in all honesty they deserve this loss given how pathetic their response to the lawsuit has been.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28506 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 12:56 pm to
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For the 56,321st time: ILLEGAL INVADERS DON'T HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS

Another one that doesn’t understand how the Constitution is set up.

The Constitution does not contain a list of “rights” that are conferred on certain people and not others. It lists limits on the power of the federal government. It uses limitation language such as “Congress shall enact no law that ….”

If the federal government does things that are outside of its power to do, the government is subject to being restrained by its own courts, which are empowered to declare the limits of governmental power and proscribe remedies for actions beyond the boundaries.

The federal government does not have absolute power over anyone.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59312 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 12:56 pm to
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Another one that doesn’t understand how the Constitution is set up.


Oh boy.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
2358 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 1:02 pm to
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Without doing a deep dive that appears that they would have the right to access to counsel omfor any proceeding but that does not mean original detention

If they have already been proceeding and there are removal orders I am not entirely sure they will be entitled to further representation rather than just being removed. It would seem to be somewhat fact specific


The way to put is:

A civil detainee (an illegal awaiting deportation and/or a deportation hearing) has a right to access counsel but does not have the right to counsel. This is part of the, if not the sole, reason that Congress has made these civil proceedings as opposed to criminal. If criminal, or at least a criminal felony, then the detainee would have a right to counsel - often at taxpayers' expense.

But here they just have a right to access their own counsel. And apparently they have a right to a list of free attorney services - which they then use to file habeas petitions with U.S. District Courts. This is effectively turning immigration litigation on its head. Congress did not want immigration matters going through U.S. District Courts - but these attorneys have a run around - habeas petitions. It is why the recent decision out of the 5th Circuit was so huge given that it put a severe limitation on U.S. District Court Judges from releasing detainees on bond via a habeas petition.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39565 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 1:06 pm to
Courts are partisan Left and complicit in the conspiracy to “fundamentally change “ the Constitutional Republic to a Global Democratic (cheating version) Socialist State. They employ the SFP version of supposedly lofty Constitutional Principle (‘word salad legal speak) to effectively end said Constitutional Republic. They have abandoned their Oath and are Treasonous IRL.

This said, I no longer believe that the Constitutional Republic and the Individual Rights therein is a functional form of governance. Criminals now use it to escape justice via the corrupt Courts. The Founders knew that the CR only works for a self policing and independent and freedom minded people. Many now and many more to come given AI technology, believe in and rely on Socialism. Therein the coming collapse of Individual Rights and the usual street fight that has historically determined formal government power when Systems become dysfunctional.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84593 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 1:17 pm to
Allowing hordes of illegals and then expecting the government to shoulder massive administrative costs to deport them is a way for liberals to overwhelm the system
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37845 posts
Posted on 2/15/26 at 1:44 pm to
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For the 56,321st time: ILLEGAL INVADERS DON'T HAVE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS

SFP will be along to tell you how wrong this statement is, is he already hasn't.
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