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re: Court allows Chauvin legal team to test George Floyd's heart tissue for appeal
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:07 pm to Fat Bastard
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:07 pm to Fat Bastard
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Usually you can't introduce evidence at the appellate level.
no new evidence. you can still use what was used in district court
if this heart tissue is new then not sure how they plan on doing this
I wonder if they wanted to proffer the evidence when they were before the trial court and needed to be able to test it for the proffer and were refused.
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 10:09 pm
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:51 pm to SaturatedPhat
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I still can’t believe WOKE arse LSU lit the stadium in George Floyd colors. How gay is that? LSU is too woke.
Yep
I would like to see LSU light up TS in Daniel Penny's HS colors. And erect a statue of Gary Plauche. And restore Gen. Middleton's name. And send Tate away with his body of woke dogma with him.
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:55 pm to SammyTiger
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Maybe he isn’t culpable for his death, but he’s a prick.
Chauvin was doing exactly what he was trained to do as a LEO. And he's in jail for it.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 1:34 am to AlwysATgr
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Chauvin was doing exactly what he was trained to do as a LEO. And he's in jail for it.
Cops are trained first responders.
No one trained him to kneel on people who are ODing.
and again, that’s the MOST favorable read of the situation
Posted on 12/17/24 at 1:43 am to SammyTiger
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No one trained him to kneel on people
Stopped here.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 5:58 am to Good Times
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Chauvin had worked with him before, so knew him as what he was.
I still think it's interesting that the defense, the media, and especially the prosecution so scrupulously avoided the entire matter of their previous acquaintance. Was it mentioned at all during the trial? Seems relevant.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:24 am to the808bass
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Stopped here.
well the next 3 words were “who are ODing”
Pretty important to the sentence
Do you think “kneel on them and do nothing” was in his first aid instructions?
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:33 am to Revelator
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If you watch the documentary about Minneapolis, the technique Chauvin used was taught in the manual and the academy. When the pressure came down, the Chief of Police tried to pretend it wasn’t, though multiple cops showed the manual and diagrams illustrating the technique Chauvin used on Floyd.
The “Technique” did not kill him . He overdosed on drugs !
Posted on 12/17/24 at 7:59 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
why isn't the report in his autopsy that he died of drug OD not good enough?
Can we please name all of the controversies Obama gyrated to race bait cause disdain and divide?
Jussie got caught
The MAGA hat kid fought back
Ferguson
The entire birth of the radical BLM movement under the guise of the black panthers.
Can we please name all of the controversies Obama gyrated to race bait cause disdain and divide?
Jussie got caught
The MAGA hat kid fought back
Ferguson
The entire birth of the radical BLM movement under the guise of the black panthers.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:21 am to AlwysATgr
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I would like to see LSU light up TS in Daniel Penny's HS colors. And erect a statue of Gary Plauche. And restore Gen. Middleton's name. And send Tate away with his body of woke dogma with him.
It’s one thing to never update your opinion of Tate. it’s another to blame him for things that happened before he was the President of LSU.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:31 am to SammyTiger
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t’s one thing to never update your opinion of Tate. it’s another to blame him for things that happened before he was the President of LSU.
So what's stopping Tate from advocating for the actions noted save departing? What's stopping Tate from condemning the actions that were taken? What's stopping Tate from repudiating his life body of work that was rooted in CRT? What's stopping Tate from really flushing LSU's DEI initiatives as opposed to camouflaging them? When he assumed his position, doesn't he assume responsibility to correct the wrongs staring him in the face?
And isn't the premise of his views to blame others for things that happened before . . .? Hmmm
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:37 am to SammyTiger
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I would like to see LSU light up TS in Daniel Penny's HS colors. And erect a statue of Gary Plauche. And restore Gen. Middleton's name. And send Tate away with his body of woke dogma with him.
It’s one thing to never update your opinion of Tate. it’s another to blame him for things that happened before he was the President of LSU.
I have been wary for Tate from the start considering his background, but he has not been the woke disaster I (and many) feared. Also, Tom Galligan (interim President) lit up the stadium.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:38 am to udtiger
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That's damned unusual. Usually you can't introduce evidence at the appellate level.
What if the defense team asked for it before or during the trial and were denied by the District Court judge? Wouldn’t that be a grounds for appeal? And couldn’t the appellate court rule that the defense team is entitled to the heart tissue to determine the actual cause of death?
I do remember that during the trial, the defense team had an extremely hard time finding a pathologist because of the death threats being made to any pathologist who would dare testify on behalf of Chauvin. Perhaps the court also ruled that Chauvin's pathologist could not have access to the heart tissue.
I don’t care who you are, but you would have to be a special kind of f*cking stupid to think that Chauvin had anything resembling a fair and unbiased trial.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:43 am to SouthEasternKaiju
George Floyd killed George Floyd
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:43 am to AlwysATgr
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So what's stopping Tate from advocating for the actions noted save departing?
common sense mostly.
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When he assumed his position, doesn't he assume responsibility to correct the wrongs staring him in the face? And isn't the premise of his views to blame others for things that happened before . . .? Hmmm
The premise of his research was that we should find different methods of teaching math to black kids.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:46 am to MMauler
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What if the defense team asked for it before or during the trial and were denied by the District Court judge? Wouldn’t that be a grounds for appeal? And couldn’t the appellate court rule that the defense team is entitled to the heart tissue to determine the actual cause of death?
I posited that in a subsequent post regarding a proffer of evidence.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:53 am to scrooster
quote:huh?
Based upon the fact that he disregarded the optics
quote:have you watched many cops deal with drugged out people?
Based on the fact that he ignored pleadings
quote:huh? again
was too much of a prick to consider the obvious depth of the situation beneath him
quote:so what did he do wrong then?
ased on the fact that, while he was following procedure
quote:again, have you ever watching druggies/thugs get detained? you touch them with your pinky and they freak out like you hit them with a sledgehammer.
to the point where he could have changed the optics and let-up ... and understood that the man, as criminal a phuq and POS as he was .... was dying.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 8:57 am to udtiger
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That's damned unusual. Usually you can't introduce evidence at the appellate level.
Based on the ECF stamp on the pleading, this is in federal district court.
Did a quick search. Looks like he filed a motion to vacate his plea and conviction in the trial court, and this is a motion for discovery in connection with that.
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 9:05 am
Posted on 12/17/24 at 9:01 am to Putty
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That's damned unusual. Usually you can't introduce evidence at the appellate level.
Based on the ECF stamp on the pleading, this is still in trial stage in federal district court.
Ah.
I thought this was having to do with the state case/appeal.
Makes sense now.
Posted on 12/17/24 at 9:10 am to CarRamrod
Floyd was dead in this picture. The entire world saw the videos.
Defending Chauvin and claiming he's not a prick ... is wrong.
He's not a murderer, we all agree with that fact. But he's a raging prick.
Bad optics. Period.
Knee in dead man's neck who was pleading for air because he has overdosed on opiods ... hands in pockets, eat shite look on his face.
Bad optics, period.
And he could have administered Narcon ... they had it in their kits. But he chose not to do so ... and this country burned, and statues toppled, and assclown libtard politicians and media danced in the burning streets during so-called "peaceful protests."
... because Chauvin is a fricking prick.
Anyone who looks at that picture above and continues to deny the bad optics of it all is a gosh damn idiot.
Bad optics. Period.
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