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re: Couple of questions for the pro-Russian/pro-Putin posters?
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:30 am to GhostOfFreedom
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:30 am to GhostOfFreedom
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Other than some people saying they would love to have our corrupt Democrats and RINOs Ukraine cash cow's milk dried up, I don't know anyone who is pro Russian or pro Putin.
A ton of posters here believe the US is facing a NWO/Globalist threat
The vast majority of these posters believe Putin is facing the same NWO/Globalist threat
Those posters are using this as a (sometimes direct, sometimes veiled) defense/explanation of Putin's actions
If that's not pro-Putin, it's Putin-adjacent...a classic "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" scneario
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:30 am to WeeWee
The narrative is set.
If you’re a Trump supporter, you’re Pro-Russian and a Putin fanboy.
If you’re a Trump supporter, you’re Pro-Russian and a Putin fanboy.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:30 am to VoxDawg
Which means you're rooting against America and our allies
Which is just as stupid
ETA - It's actually about 100 times more stupid
Which is just as stupid
ETA - It's actually about 100 times more stupid
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 11:31 am
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:31 am to HailToTheChiz
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I'm sorry but I don't read that as Putin being a martyr
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They are cornering Putin.
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or supporting Putin or this invasion
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The NWO will fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian.
Are these people pro or anti-NWO?
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:32 am to Blutarsky
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If you’re a Trump supporter, you’re Pro-Russian and a Putin fanboy.
I don't believe this.
I will say if you're pushing this "NWO/globalist" narrative, you're going to be dipping your toes into supporting Putin's alleged reasoning, at the very least.
Most Trump supporters are not "NWO/globalist" people, so it's clearly not all of them.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:32 am to Origins of Asymmetry
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Which means you're rooting against America and our allies
Which is just as stupid
ETA - It's actually about 100 times more stupid
Your post essentially says that I disagree with anything the leaders of the US want, I'm anti-America. That's not how this place works.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:33 am to SlowFlowPro
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I will say if you're pushing this "NWO/globalist" narrative
So you don't believe globalists exist or what?
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:34 am to SlowFlowPro
Sounds like they are theorizing about "NWO" being the big bad man orchestrating everything in Ukraine and Putin fighting it
I'm not saying I agree with that
It's as simple as Putin being nuts and wanting old Soviet Russia back, and not wanting NATO right on his doorstep
I'm not saying I agree with that
It's as simple as Putin being nuts and wanting old Soviet Russia back, and not wanting NATO right on his doorstep
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:34 am to LNCHBOX
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So you don't believe globalists exist or what?
There is nothing close to a single definition of "globalist", so I'm sure I believe some version of that word exists, but not 99M of the other versions
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:35 am to WeeWee
frick Ukraine and frick Russia.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:35 am to SlowFlowPro
Still don't see how that qualifies in any way as being pro-Putin, but whatever.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:35 am to HailToTheChiz
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Sounds like they are theorizing about "NWO" being the big bad man orchestrating everything in Ukraine and Putin fighting it
I'm not saying I agree with that
It's as simple as Putin being nuts and wanting old Soviet Russia back, and not wanting NATO right on his doorstep
Yes. Occam's Razor is lost on these clowns.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:35 am to HailToTheChiz
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Sounds like they are theorizing about "NWO" being the big bad man orchestrating everything in Ukraine and Putin fighting it
The same as the very Patriots™ they support.
Like I said, if it's not pro-Putin, that line of "logic" is Putin-adjacent.
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It's as simple as Putin being nuts and wanting old Soviet Russia back, and not wanting NATO right on his doorstep
Yes, and miscalculating the Ukrainian and worldwide response
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:35 am to WeeWee
From the tactical point of view, looks like Russian is doing the thing it planned to do.
Since FB/Twitter has blocked a lot info from Russian side, you are seeing more info twisted pro-Ukrainian.
0). This attack is well planned:
Russian started the fight in the first. Waited until Ukrainian gov moved the Ukrainian army from west to fight in the east. Then attacked from north and south.
This is a trap Russian patiently setup for the past a few months.
1). Russian has no interests to get into the big city.
2). It is trying to encircling the Ukrainian armies in the eastern front. That is why you are seeing logistical issues. To encircle the army, speed is the key.
3). The circle is near close now. There are two layers. There are 100K Ukrainian soldiers inside it. If these Ukrainian army eliminated, the eastern Ukraine fall into Russian hands.
4). Since Ukrainian army from the west was pulled to the east, after the east side finished, the west will be pretty empty.
With internet and social media, people are expecting the war to be finished in hours. Kind of crazy.
Since FB/Twitter has blocked a lot info from Russian side, you are seeing more info twisted pro-Ukrainian.
0). This attack is well planned:
Russian started the fight in the first. Waited until Ukrainian gov moved the Ukrainian army from west to fight in the east. Then attacked from north and south.
This is a trap Russian patiently setup for the past a few months.
1). Russian has no interests to get into the big city.
2). It is trying to encircling the Ukrainian armies in the eastern front. That is why you are seeing logistical issues. To encircle the army, speed is the key.
3). The circle is near close now. There are two layers. There are 100K Ukrainian soldiers inside it. If these Ukrainian army eliminated, the eastern Ukraine fall into Russian hands.
4). Since Ukrainian army from the west was pulled to the east, after the east side finished, the west will be pretty empty.
With internet and social media, people are expecting the war to be finished in hours. Kind of crazy.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:35 am to WeeWee
I'm not a Putin supporter but all of this just doesn't add up. Maybe, it's the way the news has been reported over the last decade that I do not trust 99% of what is being said.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:36 am to LNCHBOX
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Still don't see how that qualifies in any way as being pro-Putin, but whatever.
Putin fights the NWO/globalists
Patriots™ fight the NWO/globalists
You don't see how there will be overlapping ideology there? Don't see how it's possible, at the least?
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:36 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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How is making Putin a martyr fighting the NWO pro-Putin?
Is Putin not fighting the NWO?
Is the NWO not fighting Putin?
Those seem to be so rhetorically obvious as to need not be asked, but may be not.
Would dying for that cause make Putin a martyr?
Putin is a stone-cold killer. Nothing would make him a martyr.
On the other hand, if he took Klaus Schwab & Co with him on the way out, it might well be a good thing.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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You don't see how there will be overlapping ideology there? Don't see how it's possible, at the least?
Acknowledgement of the globalists and what they try to do does not mean you support Putin. That's simple-minded nonsense.
Posted on 2/28/22 at 11:38 am to LNCHBOX
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Your post essentially says that I disagree with anything the leaders of the US want, I'm anti-America. That's not how this place works.
Well it's tough to respond to a meme but rooting against the interests of America and its allies is not smart
And by default he would be rooting for Putin in this scenario. He's just too chicken shite to admit it.
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