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Another BREXIT pause. The UK are officially 100% cucked.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:24 am
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:24 am
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Johnson's Conservative government published the 115-page Withdrawal Agreement Bill late Monday. On Tuesday, Parliament is expected to first vote on whether Johnson commands enough support from lawmakers to approve the deal in principle and then whether they feel there is sufficient time to turn it into law by Oct. 31.
Johnson may have sufficient backing to win the first vote.
However, it's less certain if he can prevail in the second one and Johnson told the House of Commons on Tuesday that if his timeframe is rejected then his government will "pull" the bill from consideration in Parliament and ask for a general election.
The impact on Brexit's fate under that scenario is far from clear.
The vote is expected around 7 p.m. London time (2 p.m. ET).
Live Stream of the House of Commons courtesy of Sky News
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 2:54 pm
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:27 am to WeeWee
So how is the Parliament not following the people's will?
Are they basically doing what the Peach Mint thing is on this? I am really ignorant on this topic.
Are they basically doing what the Peach Mint thing is on this? I am really ignorant on this topic.
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 10:28 am
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:27 am to WeeWee
This agreement is almost the exact same thing as Mays 3 failed Brexit attempts.
If you are a fan of Brexit this is a shitty deal.
I'm glad it failed or will fail.
If you are a fan of Brexit this is a shitty deal.
I'm glad it failed or will fail.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:29 am to WeeWee
The year is 2192. The British Prime Minister visits Brussels to ask for an extension of the Brexit deadline. No one remembers where this tradition originated, but every year it attracts many tourists from all over the world.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:29 am to WeeWee
Hell yeah!!!
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:30 am to Magician2
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This agreement is almost the exact same thing as Mays 3 failed Brexit attempts.
If you are a fan of Brexit this is a shitty deal.
I'm glad it failed or will fail.
I see this as an "art of the deal" type of thing. Like, "look, I even gave them everything they wanted and they still didn't accept the plan."
I hope the UK "crashes out." It would be the best possible thing for them.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:31 am to sms151t
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So how is the Parliament not following the people's will?
Because in the UK Parliament is supreme. The UK's lack of a formal constitution has allowed parliament to pass rules and laws that literally puts them above the sovereign and even the people. The British Parliament is the best example of a political ruling class being above the people.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:35 am to WeeWee
This version is NOT what the people of Great Britain voted for.
This would be like Americans voting to get the US out of the UN but us still having to foot the bill.
This would be like Americans voting to get the US out of the UN but us still having to foot the bill.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:43 am to WeeWee
So if they do not have a deal by the 31st than is it a hard Brexit?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:49 am to stelly1025
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So if they do not have a deal by the 31st than is it a hard Brexit?
That's what the EU is saying, but they need the UK. There's no way they let them crash out, but it would be great for the UK if they did.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:01 am to WeeWee
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:01 am to imjustafatkid
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That's what the EU is saying, but they need the UK. There's no way they let them crash out, but it would be great for the UK if they did.
If that is the case frick passing this shite deal. Hard Brexit gives you way more options.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:05 am to stelly1025
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So if they do not have a deal by the 31st than is it a hard Brexit?
The Brenn Act is suppose to prevent a hard BREXIT because it would force the PM to request an Article 50 extension if there is not a deal that had been approved by Parliament. BJ supposedly had the votes for his BREXIT deal on Saturday but the amendment that delayed the vote on the BREXIT deal until the legislation that implements BREXIT is passed has already forced BJ to send the letter requesting an extension. BJ has said that if these two votes fail (the first is the legislation and the second is the withdraw agreement) he will again call for snap elections. He needs 2/3rds of the MPs to back him on that which he will not get which will force him to attempt a hard BREXIT knowing that it will be challenged in the UK's courts will fail, but will trigger a LOC vote in the House which if he loses would get him the snap elections that he wants unless Labour can convince the traitor tories into forming a government with Jeremy Corbyn as PM within 14 days of the LOC vote (which I doubt happens).
That is just the British side. The EU has not approved the UK's Article 50 extension request as of now and it has to get consent from the heads of the government from all the other EU countries to be approved. The "word on the street" as of Sunday was that some of the EU countries were getting tired of the endless cycle of extensions and that there was at least one European head of state that would not approve an extension unless the UK had a deal and was just trying to tie up the lose ends with legislation. However, if either one of these two votes fails then that would not be the case, and if one or more heads of state votes no on the extension then the extension would be denied which would trigger a hard BREXIT.
Basically nobody know what will happen if these votes fail.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:09 am to stelly1025
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That's what the EU is saying, but they need the UK. There's no way they let them crash out, but it would be great for the UK if they did.
If that is the case frick passing this shite deal. Hard Brexit gives you way more options.
Except for the fact that the Hard BREXIT option is out of the control of the UK. The Brenn Act that passed last month forced BJ to request and extension and if the EU decides to approve it then a Hard BREXIT cannot happen until January 2020 at the earliest. If the EU denies the request then a hard BREXIT will happen if the votes fail, but I believe that the EU will blink at the last minute and grant the extension.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:15 am to WeeWee
No way Brexit happens.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:17 am to sms151t
quote:Two words...DEEP STATE
So how is the Parliament not following the people's will?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:27 am to WeeWee
quote:
Because in the UK Parliament is supreme. The UK's lack of a formal constitution has allowed parliament to pass rules and laws that literally puts them above the sovereign and even the people. The British Parliament is the best example of a political ruling class being above the people.
So they are like Congress?
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:33 am to Paluka
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Because in the UK Parliament is supreme. The UK's lack of a formal constitution has allowed parliament to pass rules and laws that literally puts them above the sovereign and even the people. The British Parliament is the best example of a political ruling class being above the people.
So they are like Congress?
No they are more entertaining.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:37 am to WeeWee
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No they are more entertaining.
Posted on 10/22/19 at 11:46 am to sms151t
Money interests in the City have zero interest in seeing Brexit implemented. While the people voted for Brexit what that looks like is anybodies guess so they doing everything they can do to obstruct.
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