re: Could you imagine wanting to go to war with Russia?

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That's because they chose to spend that money on subs and missiles instead of outdated aircraft carriers.

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Their sub fleet isn't as grand as it once was. There have been lots of cut backs in the last 20 years and many of their subs fell into disrepair. They currently have about 50 boats but only 11 of those are ballistic missile subs. Their fleet is also very old with old tech. They are just bringing some subs online in the last year or so that have been under construction since the 90's. Their latest sub design also dates from the 90's.

I think the key difference between Russia and the U.S. in this area is the instant outrage and discord and protest for anything and everything on the American side particularly on the subject of casualties, while on the Russian side there would likely be a stark lack of such. Thus our resolve could perhaps fall well short of that of the Russians. Could sort of harken back to a Vietnam type situation.

And that IS NOT to diminish the bravery and competence of our fighting men and women, it would be directly due to lack of competence and fortitude on the part of our leadership. If I were a soldier at this time, my confidence level in leadership starting at the tip top would leave me a little uncertain. Which I’m sure is very dangerous in this situation.

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Russia seems to be the one threatening war.

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With Ukraine.

And it’s none of our fricking business.

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Someone doesn’t understand MAD

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I get this argument, but MAD has been in effect since, what, the early 50s? Is Russia now somehow more dangerous and likely to start a nuclear confrontation than they were in the 1970s and 80s?

I came of political age under Reagan whose position was anytime anyone, anywhere was on the side of freedom the US would be on their side,and he was constantly accused of risking a nuclear WWIII. The Ukraine citizens want to be free- want to have democracy and civil liberties and that's a threat to Putin, an authoritarian who murders individuals in Russia who want a say in how their lives go, and not just subject to Putin and his crony's dictates. He can't have a thriving democracy on his doorstep when Russian citizens, under his authoritarianism, suffer, so that Russian citizens can see that freedom works and demand it for themselves.

Putin says Ukraine has been a part of Russia historically, so that's his rational for invading them and forcing them at gunpoint to be a part of Russia, which the Ukrainians don't want and are willing to die to prevent? If you buy that, then you'd also buy Great Britain has the right to demand we return under the crown, right? Or is it that we want to be free and have the military to prevent it so it's wrong, but those poor little Ukrainians don't so F them?

As a life-long Republican I'm on the side of freedom loving citizens everywhere, willing to fight and die to preserve their freedom like our forefathers did. Biden made a huge mistake and gave Putin the green light for "a little incursion" and Russian has Germany by the balls thanks to the pipeline that Trump rightly blocked and Biden foolishly green-lit, so Germany won't allow their weapons to be used by Ukraine against a Russian invasion of the Ukrainian homeland. What has Ukraine done that warrants military aggression by Russia? They exist as a free country and that threatens Russia. Who wants to be on the Russian side then?

The US President should be rallying NATO, the EU and the world against this unprovoked aggression by Russia because we are the world's beacon FOR freedom. We don't have to send troops and the argument that the US leading a political coalition that tells Russia that they can't invade a sovereign country because having a free country on their border somehow threatens them, and the US sending military equipment to make Russia hurt if they still invade, is somehow risking MAD is a straw man at best.

The problem is we don't know who really is the leader of the Biden regime one thing we do know is it ain't Biden.

Look Russia doesn't want to go to war with us either.

But that is the thing they are not scared of it.

I think China is the much bigger problem. For the USA & Russia. Working together would be better but Hunter being in bed with China puts us in a very bad predicament.

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The problem is we don't know who really is the leader of the Biden regime one thing we do know is it ain't Biden.

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True.

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Look Russia doesn't want to go to war with us either.

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Nothing good comes from it.

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But that is the thing they are not scared of it.

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Look at their history. Great suffering but they always seem to win.

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I think China is the much bigger problem. For the USA & Russia.

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China is nothing more than A whore who steals your wallet as you sleep.

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but Hunter being in bed with Ukraine puts us in a very bad predicament.

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FTFY

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18years of war and over 100k veterans who served would have something to say about your statement

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Sooner or later yall are gonna have to come to the realization that war is more than than just the dedication of those on the ground fighting it.

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Go to fort Benning and tell the rangers that dumb shite.

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Do they support the 1st & 2nd Amendments? A return to Federalism & State’s Rights? If so, the Pentagon deems them to be Enemies of the State.

And as Joe Biden has obliquely indicated, the Feral Government endorses the idea of using the full force of military might — including nuclear weapons— against citizens who dare stand opposed to it’s ideological agenda:



Biden administration’s efforts to purge the military of “extremists” could violate individual First Amendment rights…..


See also:

Another Tripwire Crossed – Pentagon Orders Updated Screening of Military to Identify “Extremist” Outlooks in Preparation for What is to Come….




….The increased frequency of the military being politicized is what leads me to believe this phase is all just a public relations pre-positioning. I fully expect to see the standing U.S. military deployed against any state who stands up against unconstitutional federal demands.

The American electorate are being positioned to accept deployment of the U.S. military against U.S. citizens, under the guise of insurrection and/or a public threat. That is why we are seeing so much willful politicization of the military.

If you live in a region or state that values individual liberty and/or freedom, you are likely in a location that leftists consider a risk to their ability to execute their agenda. You are likely right now being defined as a ‘dissident’, or possibly a “domestic terrorist.” As a result, get ready to see this type of activity in your neighborhood.

My heart goes out to the Ukrainian people and we should help supply them in their effort but if Europeans are not willing to fight for this why should we. Don’t give a shite if Putin takes Germany, he’s not and can’t come here. China on the other hand is a real threat.