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re: Cost of Illegal Aliens to US Taxpayers
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:10 am to WildTchoupitoulas
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:10 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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The costs are easy to find
convincing estimates of them are not.
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what's hard to find are all the benefits they provide
yes, even what they pay in taxes is hard to pin down. estimates of how many reside here may not even be worth a shite, let alone the wild estimates extrapolated from those estimates
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Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:52 am to 90proofprofessional
Do we know a spitball # of illegals who are paying into the system by fraudulently-obtained SSN? How does one go about chasing those leads down?
It would almost pay to create a new government ID# system, and/or a consumer credit ID that worked independently of the SSN. Tying it to your SSN for mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc was STUPID.
It would almost pay to create a new government ID# system, and/or a consumer credit ID that worked independently of the SSN. Tying it to your SSN for mortgages, loans, credit cards, etc was STUPID.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:37 pm to 225bred
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theres been multiple threads on here with stats from our own government about the tens of billions of dollars that illegal aliens cost us
How much has Trump and his cabinet appointments cost taxpayers? Just asking for a friend.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 12:55 pm to 90proofprofessional
This is a terrible 'gotcha' thread by OP. Please regroup and try harder.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 1:04 pm to TheXman
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This is a terrible 'gotcha' thread by OP.
It's a request for source info that's been convincing to many here.
The only way it'd look like a gotcha would be if you didn't use any before you made up your mind, and the thread made you sad about it.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:35 pm to 225bred
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theres been multiple threads on here with stats from our own government about the tens of billions of dollars that illegal aliens cost us
edit: $100+ billion/ year is a conservative estimate
A FAIR report is going to have the costs at the very high end of the cost-estimate spectrum.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:39 pm to texridder
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A FAIR report is going to have the costs at the very high end of the cost-estimate spectrum.
It was a paper by FAIR that I found
It was standard advocacy group fare
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:50 pm to 90proofprofessional
quote:feel free to refute the fair numbers in detail with supporting official numbers cited
It was a paper by FAIR that I found
It was standard advocacy group fare
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:56 pm to narddogg81
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feel free to refute the fair numbers in detail with supporting official numbers cited
i do feel quite free
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:59 pm to 90proofprofessional
Let’s just say that Texas and California each could be a border wall every year.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:03 pm to tigercreole
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How much has Trump and his cabinet appointments cost taxpayers? Just asking for a friend.
My business (profits) are up 28% YTD from last year. So I am offsetting whatever pennies you are talking about.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:12 pm to 225bred
quote:FAIR is a terribly biased source since they're purpose is anti-immigration. The study is also terrible.
edit: $100+ billion/ year is a conservative estimate
Heritage is far more reputable, and they released a study around the same time. The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer
quote:So they found it to be about $55 billion. In addition, this was based on the 2010 census, and that was when unemployment was at record highs, the economy was still struggling, and entitlement usage was high and growing quickly. Therefore, I would think that 2010 was a year that costs were high for any group, including immigrants.
These households impose a net fiscal burden of around $54.5 billion per year.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:12 pm to 90proofprofessional
It costs 11k per child per year for K-12 education.
Sure we as taxpayers bear the brunt of that for our own citizens but why should we have to pay for non-citizens
Sure we as taxpayers bear the brunt of that for our own citizens but why should we have to pay for non-citizens
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:13 pm to Loserman
Just think of how much money we've wasted by educating anchor babies who are only citizens now because no one has the balls to take birthright citizenship's intent to the SCOTUS.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 4:41 pm to VoxDawg
I heard a report that the biggest factor on whether a person is a net drain or contributor to the economy is a high school education.
Legal or illegal, high school dropouts on average suck money from the system. Graduates on average are contributors.
Legal or illegal, high school dropouts on average suck money from the system. Graduates on average are contributors.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 4:48 pm to 90proofprofessional
After multiplying like roaches the illegals are going to throw our arses out...... 
Posted on 4/13/18 at 6:20 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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The costs are easy to find, what's hard to find are all the benefits they provide - specifically what is their contribution to GDP.
And their downward pressure on wages.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 6:22 pm to buckeye_vol
Any group that finds illegal immigration is a net loser is going to be labeled “anti-immigration.”
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