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re: "Constitutional carry” passes in the committee and will now move on to the House.

Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
5814 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:03 pm to
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He will veto it once it it hits his desk and Louisiana will remain the ONLY southern state without Constitutional Carry.

Supposedly we have the super majority again and all indications as of now they can override his veto. I hope the ones that tanked it last year will not cave to the Libtard’s again when it comes time to override his veto
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:05 pm to
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we just disagree here

No we don't.

I'm sorry to make you the target, but I was just espousing the absurdity of the party line on the 2A on this site. Anyone straying one tiny bit from dogma is a dangerous communist.

The hard, cold fact is that the Bill of Rights is just words on paper which can be changed as laid out by the Constitution. If enough people get fed up with firearms and the way Americans are using them, they can change the Constitution such that the Federal government may no longer guarantee that 'God given right'.

You and I agree, responsibility is the key. We (firearms enthusiasts) should lead by example of our responsibility. There should be ZERO excuses when it comes to guns. The number of guns stolen from vehicles is out of control, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was the primary vector for illegal guns on the street. "I locked my truck door." usually isn't enough to actually secure a firearm. I can't imagine having one of my guns used in the commission of a crime.

But people on this board don't want anything to do with that sort of discussion, it looks too much like communism to them. I've tried. When I've pointed out, after some have complained about theft of one of their guns, that they're responsible for securing their guns, they resort to, "You're victim blaming". They want to believe doing the minimum is enough. Anything more is infringement.
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The world is not a simple as you seem to be.



Exactly.
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
586 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:42 pm to
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"Constitutional carry” passes in the committee and will now move on to the House.
You have quite the attachment to this restriction. How much do you make off the permits?
Never made a dime. I teach shooting skills for free. I do not teach the CCW class.

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I did have a serious question: since you believe in some semblance of “reasonable training” for a concealed carry in the name of safety, shouldn’t, by the same logic, poll taxes be reintroduced along with civics testing to ensure one understands our government and how it works before voting?

No. Poll taxes are an artifice for political control and have no compelling societal interest. There is also not a compelling public interest in requiring political indoctrination for voting anyone's interests. Seems like a method of undue influence.
However there is an obvious public interest in teaching people when they can shoot and how to do it safely and accurately. Similar to teaching someone how to safely drive before issuing a drivers' license.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 10:53 pm to
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super majority can override the veto
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A cat can swim too. It's a can vs will.

I like that saying. Be warned that I will be using it in the future, maybe here, but definitely IRL.

I hate to use someone else's sayings without credit. Should I just say "a guy I know in Louisiana?"
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
5385 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:14 pm to
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During its initial passage in June, the House voted for it 73-28 and the Senate voted for it 27-9 — above the required two-thirds. Republicans and a handful of Democrats in both chambers supported the legislation, but some of those Senators changed their positions on Tuesday. Those included Sen. Gary Smith (D-Norco), Sen. Patrick Connick (R-Marrero), Sen. Louie Bernard (R-Natchitoches), Sen. Franklin Foil (R-Baton Rouge) and Sen. Greg Tarver (D-Shreveport).
I forgot there names. Thanks for posting!
Posted by td1
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
2840 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 3:20 pm to
We do have open carry in LA, but you can end up with a disturbing the peace charge if you offend or scare to many people.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11288 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 5:23 pm to
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we all become responsible for keeping the little kids away from his drunk arse.


In La. you can't carry legally, permit or not under the influence.

They will yank your permit and charge you with unlawful carry.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49028 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 5:31 pm to
Who was the piece of shite that no showed the veto override on this last time, the piece of shite with the "hurt knee" that got a no show job from JBE?
Posted by This GUN for HIRE
Member since May 2022
2974 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 5:35 pm to
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stupid they were to vote for this asswipe.


Louisiana has to be the dumbest state in the south.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8394 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 5:47 pm to
One could have the argument that everyone concealed carrying would become a “social norm” as much as having a cell phone in your pocket.

I do believe there is a massive difference in a right compared to what is personal responsibility. The conservative viewpoint here being you have the right to carry, just as open carry, but you have the personal responsibility to know how/when to shoot, with accuracy. That is not up to the government to decide, just as it currently is for open carry.

It is safer for people to carry concealed than open carry. Yet we require no training for open carry. We expect people to train themselves and know what to do. Now, suddenly, the firearm is covered by cloth and all that gets thrown out the window? The logic and mental gymnastics for open vs concealed astounds me.

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