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Conspiracy theory re: Surfside collapse
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:11 am
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:11 am
-older building with structural issues collapses the day Biden announces an infrastructure deal that the Dems are sneaking the Green New Deal into
-Knowing how the Dems operate, this gives him the opportunity to use more fear tactics saying "America, if we don't pass this spending bill, this is going to happen to all our bridges and public structures
-the tenants of the building were largely Jews in a prominent orthodox area of South Florida
Is it possible they searched for an older building with structural issues to make a point with? One perhaps in a jewish community to make his point with, as well as curry favor with all his Iranian and muslin handlers? Pretty sure they tried the same with the Vegas shooting.
-Knowing how the Dems operate, this gives him the opportunity to use more fear tactics saying "America, if we don't pass this spending bill, this is going to happen to all our bridges and public structures
-the tenants of the building were largely Jews in a prominent orthodox area of South Florida
Is it possible they searched for an older building with structural issues to make a point with? One perhaps in a jewish community to make his point with, as well as curry favor with all his Iranian and muslin handlers? Pretty sure they tried the same with the Vegas shooting.
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Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:12 am to Tiger in NY
Wouldn't put it past them evil bastids.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:13 am to Tiger in NY
Put the device down. Go outside and clear your head.
This post was edited on 6/26/21 at 11:14 am
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:15 am to Tiger in NY
Why would anyone make a connection, between a privately owned and maintained building and national infrastructure?
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:19 am to Tiger in NY
It was a private building, nutball.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:21 am to Tiger in NY
quote:No
Is it possible they searched for an older building with structural issues to make a point with?
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:21 am to auggie
People are stupid. Why would they use the flu to create a worldwide scare to steal the election?
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:23 am to Jake88
So they can't take down a private building that has randon construction people coming and going, and then just blame it on the building owners? You think that's an impossible task?
I expect the downvotes to come, but I am ok with them.
I expect the downvotes to come, but I am ok with them.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:23 am to Tiger in NY
I don’t think that’s what happened but it would surprise me in the least to learn that they did.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:25 am to Tiger in NY
There was a 2018 inspection report noting the structural problems and concrete deterioration. They finalized plans to fix it a few months ago, but hadn't done anything. Pure negligence. Stop looking for conspiracy theories in everything that happens.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:27 am to Tiger in NY
quote:
People are stupid. Why would they use the flu to create a worldwide scare to steal the election?
I think, if they wanted to intentionally sabotage something that they could point to and say "look how bad our infrastructure is", they would choose a bridge or something like that.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:29 am to Tiger in NY
They absolutely will use it for a political advantage. Remember the Rahm Emmanuel advice to the Democratic Party: “You never let a serious crisis go to waste.”
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:32 am to Tigerhalen
If it was a housing project I would agree with you. How do they use this one?
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:34 am to Tigerhalen
Agreed, it will be used for their gain. The rest I don't know about.
I know there were reports and negligence. That's what makes it the perfect target if they were going to. It provides the cover story. The fact that it was largely Jewish tenants is the icing on the cake.
I know there were reports and negligence. That's what makes it the perfect target if they were going to. It provides the cover story. The fact that it was largely Jewish tenants is the icing on the cake.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:34 am to Tiger in NY
An older building with structural issues wouldn’t fall like that. There would have been far more clues that the building was failing than the few pointed out in the 2020 report.
That building fell into a void. Only question is, what caused the void?
Larger buildings tend to go down in the ground, and the weight of the building -live plus dead load - determined (In part) how much ground is removed to place the building. The engineers know that the soil beneath the dig can support the weight of the building, in part because the soil underneath the dig was already supporting the building weight.
The collapse looks like the soil beneath the building was removed by either a sinkhole or a series of washes. The debris field is mostly below ground level.
That building fell into a void. Only question is, what caused the void?
Larger buildings tend to go down in the ground, and the weight of the building -live plus dead load - determined (In part) how much ground is removed to place the building. The engineers know that the soil beneath the dig can support the weight of the building, in part because the soil underneath the dig was already supporting the building weight.
The collapse looks like the soil beneath the building was removed by either a sinkhole or a series of washes. The debris field is mostly below ground level.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:36 am to OccamsStubble
I think the leaky pool is the culprit.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:38 am to Houstiger
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If it was a housing project I would agree with you. How do they use this one?
"America, if you don't gimme all the money, this is going to happen to our older public structures (many of which are also noted by engineers as having problems) as well"
And the goal is not to get the infrastucture money as much as pass the Green New Deal and keep eyes off that part of the bill.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:40 am to auggie
You’d need a pool the size of the Okeechobee. The pool was a clue, not a cause.
Posted on 6/26/21 at 11:48 am to OccamsStubble
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You’d need a pool the size of the Okeechobee. The pool was a clue, not a cause.
The pool had been losing water for a long time. At a place where I worked some years ago, someone left a 2 inch water valve open overnight. it washed under a concrete slab, collapsed a retaining wall and collapsed a 20,000 square foot slab in 8 hours. Years of water from the pool, flowing under the footings of the of the support columns could collapse the building, that's a fact.
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