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re: Conservatives More Likely To Believe Conspiracy Theories

Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:14 pm to
Posted by beaux duke
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Pretty much every conspiracy theory has turned out to be true.

Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:29 pm to
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I think the RW media ecosystem is more PT-Barnum like (he sewed the top half of a monkey to the back half of a fish one time and sold admission to his museum for people to see the "Fiji Mermaid" and when people called him on it, he basically justified it (paraphrasing) as "you were entertained and didn't really care if it was real in the first place"). I think the ecosystem is a bit like that now.



That’s a weird way to describe a group of media sources that correctly reported on Hunter Biden’s laptop story while others said it was Russian collusion along with the fake Russian dossier story.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:33 pm to
That's a good point about folklore and conspiracy. I do think there are 'story' structures which are either culturally reproduced or part of the way humans translate their own sensory experience so that conspiracy and folklore serve as explanations for knowledge that relative 'outsiders' use to fill in gaps where their senses fail. Something as banal as a pharmacy rep stopping by an office to explain their new product is now such an insidious event in the light of their 'unknowing.' Joan Didion says that tell ourselves stories to live and while true enough, the important thing is that stories exist, with very little attention paid to their veracity. They want the story, and most of all, they want the structure of the story, good versus evil, rising action, a climax and a denouement. None of those stories are reflective of actual reality nor are they particularly good stories to begin with, but they are the only stories these people have which gives them a feeling of wholeness.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:36 pm to
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Liberals more likely to call facts they dont like "conspiracy theories"



Left wingers are addicted to oppressor fantasies because of this guy, who never really worked and lived off women/trust fund kids.



The king of conspiracy theories himself.
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:41 pm to
Idk about that.
I consider myself a conservative, and I believe very little I read on this board.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:48 pm to
One thing that's recently been helpful to me is to come across the work of some people doing computational folkoristics (as funny as that sounds).

When they analyze the stories circulating in anti-vaccine communities, they find that they have very stable narrative structures - heroes, villains, secret knowledge, but are missing the crucial element of the vaccine-preventable diseases themselves.

Their folklore turns out to be almost entirely human and institutional - doctors, pharma, regulators, parents, whistleblowers - but almost no measles, polio, or other actual diseases. That absence makes sense if stories are filling gaps where direct sensory experience fails. if you’ve never seen polio, it can’t anchor a story that provides wholeness.

The interesting implication for me was that that narrative ecosystems select for stories that work. Malevolent actors are narratively legible. Statistical risk and absent catastrophes aren’t.

Which helps explain why debunking often feels off-target. We’re offering facts, but the other side is reasoning inside a story world where the wrong characters are on stage.

LINK
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 12:50 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:50 pm to
I’ve also been told that 76% of all ideological terror is right wing, all scientists universally agree the world will melt in 5 years, and we only need two weeks to flatten the curve!!!
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 12:58 pm to
AKA, conservatives are more likely to question the party line or the pre-crafted narrative
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:06 pm to
That’s fair - the Hunter Biden laptop is a good example where parts of the RW media ecosystem were directionally right while others dismissed it too quickly. My point isn’t that the RW ecosystem is “always wrong.” It’s that the business model rewards spectacle and transgression more than calibration. Barnum sold real curiosities and fake ones. The problem wasn’t that everything was false, but that the audience couldn’t reliably tell which was which, similar to what you've got in the audiences of the RW outlets and influencer sphere.
This post was edited on 12/13/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:07 pm to
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TigerDoc


My man. Maybe you shouldn’t be posting in a thread about believing conspiracies. Hope all is well.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:09 pm to
All is never well.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:14 pm to
All media participates in sensationalism. I hate that Fox News has a big red graphic with a loud alarm sound that proclaims “BREAKING NEWS” as if there is a national emergency. In the same way when I see msnbc host saying that Donald Trump and the republicans are going to put black people back in chains, that’s pure crap.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:16 pm to
The key to determining whether an assertion is fact or fiction requires Critical Thinking. Now which people have sharper Critical Thinking skills? The left or the right?
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11530 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:20 pm to
yeah, our eyeballs are $ to them and well-reported info more facts and nuance and less speculation is expensive and less profitable. We end up getting the informational equivalent of what big food gives us.
Posted by Sassafrasology
Member since Nov 2025
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:23 pm to
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Conservatives More Likely To Believe Conspiracy Theories



Liberals are more likely to be offended and use the power of government to censor conservatives that are likely to believe in conspiracy theories.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17229 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:25 pm to
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yeah, our eyeballs are $ to them and well-reported info more facts and nuance and less speculation is expensive and less profitable. We end up getting the informational equivalent of what big food gives us.


Exactly. I see it on both sides. What makes it even worse is that when an actual story that seems outside of the norm and would call into question the various systems that we have entrusted as the gatekeepers of truth and justice, we immediately dismiss it because of the sensationalism that both sides use.
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:29 pm to
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y'all just forget about the ones that don't, or claim others have been proven when they haven't.

Don't believe me? Watch this: Has it been proven that Democrats stole the 2020 Election?
It HAS been proven to the satisfaction of the average Trumpist, because Trump said so.
Posted by theronswanson
House built with my hands
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:29 pm to
Didn’t this board have a massive Q thread? Kind of proving the study’s point…
Posted by RelentlessAnalysis
Trumpist Populism: Politics by LCD
Member since Oct 2025
2564 posts
Posted on 12/13/25 at 1:44 pm to
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Didn’t this board have a massive Q thread? Kind of proving the study’s point…
At the same time, didn’t Chicken try to quarantine the nutcases ON that thread and limit contamination of the rest of the board?
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