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re: "Conservative Case Emerges to Disqualify Trump" DNyuz

Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:46 am to
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2305 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:46 am to
I actually laughed out load reading this. Thanks
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:47 am to
In the article is a link to the abstract where the authors say this:

quote:

Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment forbids holding office by former office holders who then participate in insurrection or rebellion. Because of a range of misperceptions and mistaken assumptions, Section Three’s full legal consequences have not been appreciated or enforced. This article corrects those mistakes by setting forth the full sweep and force of Section Three.

First, Section Three remains an enforceable part of the Constitution, not limited to the Civil War, and not effectively repealed by nineteenth century amnesty legislation. Second, Section Three is self-executing, operating as an immediate disqualification from office, without the need for additional action by Congress. It can and should be enforced by every official, state or federal, who judges qualifications. Third, to the extent of any conflict with prior constitutional rules, Section Three repeals, supersedes, or simply satisfies them. This includes the rules against bills of attainder or ex post facto laws, the Due Process Clause, and even the free speech principles of the First Amendment. Fourth, Section Three covers a broad range of conduct against the authority of the constitutional order, including many instances of indirect participation or support as “aid or comfort.” It covers a broad range of former offices, including the Presidency. And in particular, it disqualifies former President Donald Trump, and potentially many others, because of their participation in the attempted overthrow of the 2020 presidential election.


He is saying state officials have the authority to enforce this part of the Constitution. Theoretically, if he is right, a Secretary of State in a state like Georgia could just leave Trump off the ballot. (do personal insults matter I have been asked? )
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:48 am to
There are just so many "anti Trump" articles that people should be aware of.

I wonder why that is??
Posted by woody1984
Member since Nov 2009
483 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:52 am to
quote:

J6 was a DNC-FBI entirely orchestrated hoax



Thanks for the laugh so early in the morning. I needed that.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2305 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:54 am to
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There are just so many "anti Trump" articles that people should be aware of.

I wonder why that is??


The MSM are bought and paid for. You knew this before you typed it. Being a smart arse does not change the fact that you are a dumb arse.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26441 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:56 am to
Even you are not dumb enough to believe that someone can be determined to have committed "insurrection" without even being charged, much less convicted, of insurrection.

Everything in that article is law professors jerking each other off in fantasyland.
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 9:57 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30201 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:57 am to
Yeah it’s a glaring Constitutional due process issue.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 9:58 am to
There were no court rulings that determined the men of the Confederate Army were part of an insurrection but they were certainly treated as insurrectionist and this part of the Constitution was created for that purpose.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26441 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:00 am to
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There were no court rulings that determined the men of the Confederate Army were part of an insurrection but they were certainly treated as insurrectionist and this part of the Constitution was created for that purpose.


And that would be relevant to Trump how exactly?
This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 10:03 am
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
4222 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:00 am to
I sat home that day and didn't say shite about it. Does this mean I was also involved in the isurrection?
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2305 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:01 am to
quote:

J6 was a DNC-FBI entirely orchestrated hoax



100%. Pelosi should be neck swinging from the capital balcony. McConnel should have to watch and know that when she is cut down he is next.
Posted by TIGERHOLD
Orleans Parish
Member since Mar 2022
1032 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:02 am to
The Cult of 45 is lashing out because they are desperate.

Trial date is going to be January 2. Right around Iowa. Trump will be behind bars with the J6ers who he failed to pardon.

I hate that it had to come to this, but it is the only chance to get the democrats out. Trump cannot win a general election. 2022 proved this.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
13347 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:03 am to
quote:

There are just so many "anti Trump" articles that people should be aware of.

I wonder why that is??


Yeah, it's a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside and enigma, how there are so many anti Trump articles from the democrat propaganda media, and generationally democrat controlled academia with their marxist/communist journalism schools. Just can't figure that one out.
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
2305 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:04 am to
quote:

The Cult of 45 is lashing out because they are desperate.

Trial date is going to be January 2. Right around Iowa. Trump will be behind bars with the J6ers who he failed to pardon.

I hate that it had to come to this, but it is the only chance to get the democrats out. Trump cannot win a general election. 2022 proved this.




Can some one ban this idiot. He is just spamming the board.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:04 am to
The clause was created to deal with the insurrection of the Civil War and still exists today.

quote:

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.




What these lawyers are saying is one can be barred from holding office if some official decides that person was part of insurrection.

Raffensperger, for example, could simply say based on his experiences with Trump surrounding the 2020 election he has deemed him unworthy under this clause of appearing on the Georgia 2024 ballot.

This post was edited on 8/11/23 at 10:06 am
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19551 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:05 am to
quote:

“It is unquestionably fair to say that Trump ‘engaged in’ the Jan. 6 insurrection through both his actions and his inaction,” the article said.


CNN, the DNC and the FBI Stasi told them so.
Posted by LSUFANMICK
Colorado Springs
Member since Sep 2009
1223 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:06 am to
Why do you love the uni-party so much?
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
8924 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:06 am to

:lol

I have a weapon, weapons kill. Guilty by association.

They have nothing except, some old blowhard rinos trying to remain relevant.

quote:

Just the messenger cult members. Save your personal insults for another thread.


frick you commie!!!!!
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73881 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:06 am to
You are still trying to push muh insurrection?

Its so pathetic
Posted by TIGERHOLD
Orleans Parish
Member since Mar 2022
1032 posts
Posted on 8/11/23 at 10:07 am to
Explain how Trump can get re-elected.

Not one Trump supporter has been able to so far. If he is so popular, why did all of his hand-picked candidates lose in 2022?
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