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re: Confessions of a Public Defender

Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:00 pm to
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Did you read the whole thing?
I read every word. He detailed his experiences. Are experiences racist?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
32823 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:01 pm to
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And you know this how?


I don't. Just a hunch based on a combination of factors, such as that he seems to rely far too heavily on law hanging fruit that could easily be gleaned from hearing a criminal defense attorney talk, and the specifics he gives are bizarre, like saying his client prayed before a heist. How on earth would he know that? I don't see that showing up in an APC or IOR, and I certainly don't think a client is going to offer up that information.

Were I intent on writing an article like this, it would be very heavy on information I gathered from clients as opposed to anecdotal observation of the courtroom in general. In short, it just doesn't read like a criminal defense attorney would have written it.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:04 pm to
This column also on Alan Wests site if you'd like a less inflammatory source LINK
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:05 pm to
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Are experiences racist?


Interpreting one's experiences with degenerates as a conclusive telling of the tendencies of tens of millions of people is stupid. Breaking those millions neatly into racial groups is inherently racist.

What the frick is it about obvious racism that you people find so confusing? I have an idea, but I'm interested in yours.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:05 pm to
But originally published on a white supremacist website...the place a by the book liberal would definitely go to to spill his guts.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:06 pm to
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This column also on Alan Wests site if you'd like a less inflammatory source


Yeah, I saw your thread. A random black guy who couldn't promote past LTC doesn't validate anything.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:09 pm to
Allen West, how much of a dupe is he or is he just playing an angle for $$$?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:09 pm to
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What the frick is it about obvious racism that you people find so confusing? I have an idea, but I'm interested in yours.
I didn't interpret it about all blacks. I interpreted about the culture of blacks reach the criminal justice system and those around them and how it differed from other groups he dealt with in this system.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298327 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:11 pm to
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Yeah, I don't think he's racist, but his job has him dealing with the lowest of the lowest-types. I have some AA cop friends that are pretty much of the same thought, and you wouldn't believe what they think of their own race..but its not really race that's the issue, its that element..


I doubt he's even a public defender, probably one of that white power groups bloggers fantasizing about what it would be like as a public defender.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:11 pm to
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This column also on Alan Wests site if you'd like a less inflammatory source LINK



He actually claims he wrote it on his site!
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12179 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:12 pm to
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I read every word. He detailed his experiences. Are experiences racist?



If I use my limited and bias experiences to then generalize an entire race, then yes.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:12 pm to
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Yeah, I saw your thread. A random black guy who couldn't promote past LTC doesn't validate anything.

Sorry. Didn't mean that be taken as validation. I just had noted some folks the thread were unhappy about clicking a white supremacist site which is understandable. I wouldn't want to click it either.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:13 pm to
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He actually claims he wrote it on his site!
Um. No.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92903 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:14 pm to
Ummmmm yes!

[quote]Written by Allen West on December 29, 2014
[/quote

ETA: NM, you linked to page 2 of the article
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35878 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:14 pm to
I worked as an ER doctor in Chinatown...all asians are sick all the time.

I worked as a doorman at BET headquarters..all blacks are highly educated and very stylish.

I worked at a recording studio in Nashville...all white people can ho down on fiddles and banjos.

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:17 pm to
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Ummmmm yes!
Sheesh. Comprehension please. He wrote the article that INCLUDES the text. Hence, the title the article. If you go to page one, you'll see his preface.

I mean. He was never a public defender. Try harder
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:18 pm to
Do you actually believe it's legit? That a liberal public defender would go to a cleaned up stormfront to talk about the his "experiences" as a public defender in the criminal justice system? C'mon dude.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 7:20 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:20 pm to
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I worked as an ER doctor in Chinatown...all asians are sick all the time.

I worked as a doorman at BET headquarters..all blacks are highly educated and very stylish.

I worked at a recording studio in Nashville...all white people can ho down on fiddles and banjos.

Again. I didn't interpret that he extrapolated to "all"

I read it as "these are the differences I saw in the justice system"
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:23 pm to
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Do you actually believe it's legit?
Actually, I think it is very possible isn't. I don't rule out it being legit but I'm not a huge fan of anonymous stuff
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 7:28 pm to
So you can't rule out the possibility that a liberal public defender went to a racist organization to give his views on the criminal justice system?
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