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re: Confederate flags everywhere
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:20 am to SWOK Sooner
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:20 am to SWOK Sooner
It’s still there. The owner has been interviewed a couple of times.
No way he’s taking it down.
ETA: I’ll be damned. They took it down to avoid a mob from burning it. It’s on private property so I would call it target practice.
No way he’s taking it down.
ETA: I’ll be damned. They took it down to avoid a mob from burning it. It’s on private property so I would call it target practice.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 11:23 am
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Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:20 am to USA Dan
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It was just a symbol of Southern culture, of being a beer drinker and hell raiser that loved the South, Southern rock, Southern girls, Southern food, hunting and fishing, Southern football. Raisin hell on Saturady, in church on Sunday. We were damn proud to be from the South. I still am.
We all know this^^^^ the Prog/Dim leftists know this. What's going on today with the looting/rioting/protesting isn't truly rooted in racial injustice. What we have Marxists using identity politics as a means to advance their political ideology and at least half of all Americans are to dense to understand what's taking place.....it's damn frustrating.!!!
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:22 am to Chief One Word
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I want a confederate flag bikini for the girl
Post a pic of that patriot when she gets it.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:28 am to PetroBabich
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I don't know where you grew up but where I grew up a Confederate flag flying somewhere meant "black people, we don't like you so stay away"
This guy didnt get the message I guess.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:31 am to rich4pres
I think it's funny how it's literally referred to as the "rebel flag" and they think we'll listen when they tell us not to fly it
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:33 am to BFIV
quote:For the last 150 plus years the Stars & Stripes was the flag that allowed 200,000 Blacks to volunteer to fight for their freedom during the Civil War. Under the same flag that gave us the 13th , 14th & 15th amendments. The same flag that was flying when the Civil Rights & Voting Rights Act were signed. The same flag that millions of Blacks have proudly served under in the military.
By your reasoning and thought processes, the Stars and Stripes is a slavery and racist flag since it flew over institutional slavery for 80+ years
The Stars & Stripes have at least tried to redeem itself. There are absolutely no redeeming qualities of the Confederate flag.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:36 am to sugar71
And the Stars and Stripes flew over the absolutely brutal suppression of the Philippines revolt.
And it was the banner that we carried when we decimated the Indians in the west, in our savage war of peace.
You can find ugliness everywhere. A single minded approach to history is a fundamentally illiterate one.
The choice to view these as racist, and that’s a choice, isn’t driven by history. It’s driven by a personal antipathy to southern culture.
And it was the banner that we carried when we decimated the Indians in the west, in our savage war of peace.
You can find ugliness everywhere. A single minded approach to history is a fundamentally illiterate one.
The choice to view these as racist, and that’s a choice, isn’t driven by history. It’s driven by a personal antipathy to southern culture.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 11:44 am
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:39 am to BlackAngus
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It is a slavery and racist flag though. Its a flag for losers and treasonous people. But the idiotic and ironic thing of it all is those waving the confederate flag have the nerve to call themselves patriotic. The entire reason the confederacy ever existed is because they wanted to keep slaves. How is that offenseive or racist ?
How many Nike swooshes do you have in your house?
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:41 am to sugar71
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The Stars & Stripes have at least tried to redeem itself.
Glad to see you don't support reparations then.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:42 am to sugar71
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:50 am to Pianoman
quote:You need to read the Articles of Secession/ Secession speeches.
You need to read "The South was Right" by the Kennedy brothers....no way the South was willing to lose so many lives so 6% of the population could own slaves. Main reason for the war was over states rights.
Number of Households owning at least 1 slave 1860 Census:
Mississippi-49%
S Carolina- 46%
Georgia- 37%
Alabama-35%
Florida-34%
Louisiana-29%
Texas-28%
N Carolina-28%
Virginia- 26%
Tennessee-25%
Kentucky-23%
Arkansas- 20%
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:51 am to rich4pres
I personally would not fly or display the Confederate Battle Flag because like it or not, that flag was co-opted by hate groups during the Civil Rights era. Now, that does not mean that I think that everyone who flies it is a white supremacist or is necessarily a member of an extremist hate group.
Far from it, the truly extremist groups in our society are those that seek to silence or ban any symbol that offends the prevailing orthodoxy of political correctness. The totalitarians pushing this eradication of “hate” symbols are indeed actually empowering the Confederate Battle Flag as a symbol of resistance against the hive mind of the multiculturalists who in truth are enemies of diversity in thought.
Far from it, the truly extremist groups in our society are those that seek to silence or ban any symbol that offends the prevailing orthodoxy of political correctness. The totalitarians pushing this eradication of “hate” symbols are indeed actually empowering the Confederate Battle Flag as a symbol of resistance against the hive mind of the multiculturalists who in truth are enemies of diversity in thought.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 11:52 am
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:55 am to Pooturd
Posted on 6/27/20 at 11:58 am to sugar71
LINK
What They Fought For - James McPherson
Slavery triggered the conflict, but it was rooted in an increasing sense of southern nationalism that emerged in the Antebellum period. An identity sharpened by the differences over slavery, but rooted in fundamentals that went far beyond the slavery vs free soil debate.
With independence won, southerners found themselves in cultural and thus political conflict with northerners, who held very different values, and had a very different vision for America.
Where southerners prized individual autonomy, northerners were very collectivists, and favored a strong central government. The two philosophy’s struggled to coexist.
What They Fought For - James McPherson
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James McPherson, in What They Fought For, explains the reason Confederate and Union soldiers prevailed throughout the bloodiest war ever fought in the United States. He read over 25,000 letters and hundreds of diaries to conclude that Civil War soldiers did indeed know what they were fighting for. In a war where letters were not censured by the military these primary sources reveal the pervading beliefs Southerners held for the ideology behind their fighting. Additionally, many of the Southern soldiers read the newspapers which kept them informed about the South’s motivation to continue fighting as the deaths accrued. The Confederate soldiers were fighting for their homes, their families, and for liberty from the Northern states and patriotic beliefs. The government of the North was seen by Southerners to be tyrannical. Thus, the Southern states, especially North Carolina, formed numerous regiments to fight in the war. Additionally, since the war was fought primarily in the South the preservation of their home-front became a prime motivator for Confederate soldiers. McPherson uses the same method of analyzing letters and diaries to support his claim for what the Northern soldiers fought for. These Northern soldiers were fighting to preserve the republic and to continue the legacy of their forefathers from 1776. McPherson concludes that Union soldiers placed slightly greater significance on the fight for democratization than that of the Confederate South. However, the South’s motivation to separate from the Union, fight for their home front and families also allowed their soldiers to continue the fight for four long, weary years.
Slavery triggered the conflict, but it was rooted in an increasing sense of southern nationalism that emerged in the Antebellum period. An identity sharpened by the differences over slavery, but rooted in fundamentals that went far beyond the slavery vs free soil debate.
With independence won, southerners found themselves in cultural and thus political conflict with northerners, who held very different values, and had a very different vision for America.
Where southerners prized individual autonomy, northerners were very collectivists, and favored a strong central government. The two philosophy’s struggled to coexist.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 6/27/20 at 12:01 pm to Auburn1968
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I'm not interested in a Confederate battle flag, but I wish I had bought those bundles of Confederate money I saw 60 years ago in shops in Charleston, SC. Some of those bills are worth more than green backs now.
Bingo.
This really is what the Deep State’s cultural war against the principles of liberty is about: maintaining at any cost our Global Military Empire and the print on demand monetary system which props it up.
The Deep State, the global elite, 0.001%, the Oligarchs of the New World Order, the Illuminati — however you wish to categorize the corrupt Central Bankers who control all the true levers of power in this nation — will let our nation degrade into violent chaos simply to maintain their death-grip on power.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 6/27/20 at 12:02 pm to USA Dan
I've changed my stance. It needs to come off
Posted on 6/27/20 at 12:03 pm to USA Dan
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Growing up that flag did not represent hate and bigotry and slavery at all.
The Peanut Farmer POTUS said the same thing in a 2015 interview.
I had a fleeting thought that someone should come up with a new flag that represents southern culture but then realized at this point anything southern is going to always be viewed as racist.
This post was edited on 6/27/20 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 6/27/20 at 12:03 pm to VanzettiVandal
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Where is a good site to buy high quality Confederate flag stuff? Like a really good deal flag or something to frame on the wall?
LINK
Posted on 6/27/20 at 12:04 pm to Lima Whiskey
The coup that did away with the Articles of Confederation made the Civil War inevitable.
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