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re: Compound Interest Will Not Make You Rich
Posted on 3/10/25 at 12:53 pm to TigerTalker142
Posted on 3/10/25 at 12:53 pm to TigerTalker142
What is this copying and pasting the same shite over again?
Posted on 3/10/25 at 12:54 pm to TigerTalker142
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While you may think it hasn't impacted you, it has, it just hasn't impacted you enough for you to care yet.
The average American has no emergency savings and couldn’t make it more than a month without being in financial distress. There are millions of active go fund mes for final expenses. Most Americans do not have life insurance or enough life insurance, which can also generate wealth for future generations. Why? Because it doesn’t benefit them NOW.
I’m in the top 1% of earners in the country, I’m not worried about what other people are doing with their money.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:08 pm to TigerTalker142
Doesn’t help that the Fed isn’t raising interest like it should with high inflation. We should be minimum at 9%. Been protecting Wall Street since 2007. There should be a huge market correction.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:08 pm to Bigdawgb
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If you're putting $10M to work it's going to go 100X further than $100k, all else being equal. Think of all the jobs that's creating, all the benefits derived from $10M of invested capital.
Yes, I understand the economic potential $10,000,000 has is greater then $100,000.
I was responding to his argument that people's lack of willingness to sacrifice or work hard is the reason we see less and less people being able to retire or be able to afford home's etc.
Owning assets that generate $10,000,000 doesn't correlate to how "hard" an indivudal worked or the sacrifices they had to make. In the same way that large swaths of society being increasingly unable to afford things that were previously affordable would not be primarily due to their lack of willingness to work hard and/or sacrifice.
Those two factors aren't the sole indicators of the wealth someone is able to generate.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:13 pm to TigerTalker142
you keep repeating the same thing over and over.
this is what you originally said
You're blaming the ultra wealthy as the cause for this, I am suggesting otherwise. If you think discipline and sacrifice has no correlation to wealth generation I don't know what to tell you.
this is what you originally said
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while some portion of society will make enough to support them through retirement and in some cases will even have some money left over to pass on. The path we're increasingly on is that those individuals are becoming fewer and fewer.
You're blaming the ultra wealthy as the cause for this, I am suggesting otherwise. If you think discipline and sacrifice has no correlation to wealth generation I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:13 pm to NC_Tigah
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Welp ... that's 20 minutes I can't get back. What a bunch of gibberish.
He didn invest nufins…
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:14 pm to NC_Tigah
NC Tigah has it right. If young people would just do this instead of eating out 2X’s a week they’d be fine. $200/week invested in a safe investment like an index fund will do wonders for your security.
I try and explain the rule of 72 to young people. I learned about that rule about 35 years ago and it changed the way I thought about saving, really everything.
The wealth of this nation is going to take off if people will have the patience to listen to what Trump is trying to sell our country. There is no short supply of opportunity only a very short supply of common sense and patience and the notion of need vs want.
I try and explain the rule of 72 to young people. I learned about that rule about 35 years ago and it changed the way I thought about saving, really everything.
The wealth of this nation is going to take off if people will have the patience to listen to what Trump is trying to sell our country. There is no short supply of opportunity only a very short supply of common sense and patience and the notion of need vs want.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:19 pm to DrrTiger
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I always take investment advice from a guy who looks like he just left an Antifa rally.
And have particle board kitchen cabinets
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:19 pm to dovehunter
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The wealth of this nation is going to take off if people will have the patience to listen to what Trump is trying to sell our country. There is no short supply of opportunity only a very short supply of common sense and patience and the notion of need vs want.
exactly my point, but numb nuts over here suggests otherwise
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:23 pm to TigerTalker142
Depends on the principal and the rate and ability to leave it alone and/or continue contributing.
Simple math.
Simple math.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:28 pm to TigerTalker142
quote:it can if you make a very high income and save a lot of it
Compound Interest Will Not Make You Rich
the county worker/nurse millionaire next door shite is dead though
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:35 pm to DCtiger1
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You're blaming the ultra wealthy as the cause for this, I am suggesting otherwise. If you think discipline and sacrifice has no correlation to wealth generation I don't know what to tell you.
I think if you have nothing then a prerequisite of becoming wealthy would absolutely be dicispline and sacrifice, although that doesn't guarentee anything.
I'm arguing that the fact that more and more people are unable to afford to retire or buy home, and that wages have been significantly outstripped by the cost of purchasing assets, requiring significantly more labor to purchase the same things as prior generations, is more likely the result of factors outside of the majority of folks suddenly becoming less disciplined or unwilling to sacrifice then people from the 1960's-2010's
If you feel like that explains the majority of these factors and the increase in wealth inequality then yea I guess we're at an impasse.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:38 pm to TigerTalker142
For anybody who wants to save 22 minutes of their life, here are the cliffs notes:
You cant save enough money for compound interest to work for you, therefore, compound interest doesn't work.
I don't know why he takes so long to make that one point, but that's basically it.
You cant save enough money for compound interest to work for you, therefore, compound interest doesn't work.
I don't know why he takes so long to make that one point, but that's basically it.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 1:40 pm to wackatimesthree
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You cant save enough money for compound interest to work for you, therefore, compound interest doesn't work.
What a ridiculous statement
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:00 pm to TigerTalker142
quote:You're diminishing more than demonizing.
t's not demonizing the wealthy
>80% of US millionaires are first gen wealth.
In contrast to the OP nitwit's contentions, a hallmark of those millionaires is living within their means while accumulating wealth. It is a remarkably consistent characteristic.
E.g., Two partners pull very similar earned income over 25years. One spends money like it's burning a hole in his pocket. The other lives comfortably, but well within his means. The two work more or less similarly hard on the job. Yet at the end of the timespan, the more frugal fellow is worth 5x what the spender is. That's not a hypothetical, btw. It is an example as to how compound interest can make you rich though.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:14 pm to TigerTalker142
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We all recognize the price of many assets are outpacing wages and have been for decades.
25 yrs ago a 42" 720p flat screen TV was $15K. Now folks wouldn't pay $15 for that same TV; 42" 1080p units are going for $120.
How are you defining "assets"?
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:18 pm to wackatimesthree
quote:I wish you'd have posted this two hours earlier before I wasted my 20 minutes.
For anybody who wants to save 22 minutes of their life, here are the cliffs notes:
You cant save enough money for compound interest to work for you, therefore, compound interest doesn't work.
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:24 pm to NC_Tigah
You're absolutely correct. Certainly historically, if you were able to save diligently and live within your means you would likely be able to retire with a nice nest egg.
The video is speaking more to the current and future state of the average member of society's ability to actually be able to save enough wages to perpetuate this cycle, and posets that increasing asset accumulation with the richest likely will/already is having impacts on the average person's ability to do this.
The video is speaking more to the current and future state of the average member of society's ability to actually be able to save enough wages to perpetuate this cycle, and posets that increasing asset accumulation with the richest likely will/already is having impacts on the average person's ability to do this.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 3/10/25 at 2:50 pm to TigerTalker142
quote:The video addresses the average member of BRITISH society's ability to save wages.
The video is speaking more to the current and future state of the average member of society's ability to actually be able to save enough wages
As is the case with most of Europe, socialism decimated the Brits in economic terms. People would be shocked to actually realize how low European family incomes are. For example IIRC, if the UK became a state, it would be the poorest per capita in the country.
Yet the level of UK taxation is daunting. Median HH income there is $44.5K/yr. That HH would be taxed at a 17.8% effective rate as opposed to 11.1% here for the same HH. Plus the UK employs an additional 20% VAT tax on top of the IT.
So, yeah, that certainly makes wealth accumulation challenging.
This post was edited on 3/10/25 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 3/10/25 at 3:17 pm to TigerTalker142
Interesting claim. Meanwhile my children (all under 34) are all actively saving and will have anywhere from $2-5MM in net worth by there mid 50s. Will that be enough? Who knows, but assuming long term market returns and inflation are somewhat corollary I think so.
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