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re: Communism did not come from China and Russia
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:09 pm to oldskule
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:09 pm to oldskule
quote:
Socialism and Communism are platforms for weak, unhappy, sheeple.....designed and implemented by cruel and selfish elitists!
Capitalism and Freedom works!!!!!!
Correct
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Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:11 pm to psk_Vol
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:15 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
A corollary point: the banking elite in the Anglo-Sphere also gave us the Federal Reserve.
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:18 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
quote:Not at all.
So you have trouble distinguishing between the word "did" and the phrase "did not"?
There are obviously enough window-licking swimmers in your own cesspit who believe Marx and Engels were Chinese that you were convinced you could bring some productive information to folks outside your pit.
You didn't.
Origins of Communism are common knowledge outside your own circle. In other news, explain to your fellow window lickers that Abraham Lincoln was not the first president, and the earth isn't flat.
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:31 pm to BuckI
quote:false
The early Christians lived a Marxist lifestyle
First of all, Marxism is much larger than it’s adopted financial system of “Communism”.
It’s much closer to think of the first Christians as following a communist (small c) system as opposed to being Marxists.
Living in a commune with a small group of people with fully sharing assets, and wages, and expenses, can work fine for awhile, but it can never last because humans are sinful, flawed, lazy, and most importantly resentful.
Notice that the early Christian Apostles and Disciples did not force this type of lifestyle on their followers. It mostly developed naturally when they had to hide from persecution, which makes sense.
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:39 pm to tiger11
Maximilian Robespierre in 1792 was Jewish? Check out the Jacobins during the French Revolution . They were as radical as any Marxist. Killing nuns, killing each other.
This post was edited on 5/25/25 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:41 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
It’s just nonsense that the slave trade of slave ownership were a Jewish thing
SammyTiger: astute, well read learned scholar of history. Master of the English language. Wizard with words.
frick, what would folks like us do without people like you telling the world everything you know about life? Scary thoughts
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
If the workers were educated, they would quit until ownership shared in the profits. The owner is nothing without the worker, the real people who built this nation. Nothing wrong with being rich, but they don't need all the money. Share it with the ones who made them what they are.
Posted on 5/25/25 at 4:53 pm to Jimbeaux
I was at fault for saying it was Marxist. They didn't call for violence or forced labor or government control. They were men and women who, of free will, joined together to take care of one another. But it was more than a commune. This was a common trait among the faithful.
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:02 pm to BuckI
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they would quit until ownership shared in the profits.
They sound dumb. Thats how you starve your family.
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:04 pm to blueboy
Yup. Jewish Americans MUST be equally included in the “guilt by bloodline”.
The shaming and contempt possessed by millions-if not billions now ultimately domestic and abroad-that openly and confidently cast resentment and contempt towards White Christian Americans because of some role their ancestors and government once had and-allegedly-are complicit in “perpetuating” to this day everything that’s “bad” and “unfair” about America in 2025...ya sorry, but Jewish Americans deserve the same props, credit and recognition for their contribution to the institution of slavery in America in the 18th and 19th centuries that the ancestors of Christian American slavers now have the pleasure of “atoning” for.
Progressively correcting the historical record so that we can ensure that American Judaism is not racistily excluded from joining their fellow white Christian American countrymen along with us on this never ending world wide guilt trip tour about things that happened hundreds of years ago is the morally decent and intellectually responsible thing to do! Right?!
Excluding people and groups of minorities in any aspect of life and history is BAD!
The shaming and contempt possessed by millions-if not billions now ultimately domestic and abroad-that openly and confidently cast resentment and contempt towards White Christian Americans because of some role their ancestors and government once had and-allegedly-are complicit in “perpetuating” to this day everything that’s “bad” and “unfair” about America in 2025...ya sorry, but Jewish Americans deserve the same props, credit and recognition for their contribution to the institution of slavery in America in the 18th and 19th centuries that the ancestors of Christian American slavers now have the pleasure of “atoning” for.
Progressively correcting the historical record so that we can ensure that American Judaism is not racistily excluded from joining their fellow white Christian American countrymen along with us on this never ending world wide guilt trip tour about things that happened hundreds of years ago is the morally decent and intellectually responsible thing to do! Right?!
Excluding people and groups of minorities in any aspect of life and history is BAD!
This post was edited on 5/25/25 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:07 pm to BuckI
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If the workers were educated, they would quit until ownership shared in the profits. The owner is nothing without the worker, the real people who built this nation. Nothing wrong with being rich, but they don't need all the money. Share it with the ones who made them what they are.
“The worker”
Once you start to recognize it, It’s so easy to see the tentacles of marxism even in mostly truthful statements such as above.
First, we see that the individuals who are providing the labor are lumped into a group named “the laborer”. Once you dehumanize them with all their individual flaws and skills, and turn them into a victim class, it’s so easy to stoke resentment.
The second thing we see is a misunderstanding of economics. Classic marxian. Wages and wealth are not simply a product of labor. The nature of the product, the demand for it and the supply of it, sets the price and the profit. The wage rates are set by the difficulty in finding people to do the work.
Thirdly, statements are made to stoke resentment in the workers. They may be compensated quite well, with a much higher living standard afforded than other similar workers, but they are told to be rightfully resentful that others in the company hierarchy are paid so much more.
There is nothing so mundane and yet so rare and valuable as good management, and its always undervalued. Even less understood and appreciated is creative vision and daring to start and lead a profitable company.
Having said all that, yes, there is a natural tension between the workers and the managers and the owners, all of whom are subject to the same good/evil dichotomy in every one of us, with some choosing to ve more good and others choosing to be more selfish.
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:07 pm to psk_Vol
quote:
Yup. Jewish Americans MUST be equally included in the “guilt by bloodline”.
A shaming and contempt millions-if not billions ultimately domestic and abroad-whom now openly and confidently cast resentment and contempt towards White Christian Americans because of some role their ancestors and government once had and-allegedly-are complicit in “perpetuating” to this day everything that’s “bad” and “unfair” about America in 2025.
Progressively correcting the historical record so that we can ensure that American Judaism is not racistily excluded from joining their fellow white Christian American countrymen along with us on this never ending world wide guilt trip tour about things that happened hundreds of years ago is the morally decent and intellectually responsible thing to do! Right?!
This doesn't seem unhinged at all
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Huh? Inclusion is an enlightened modern day virtue.
Would be wildly bigoted and ignorant of history to segregate and exclude the modern day ancestors of Jewish Americans from their fellow modern day White American Christian countrymen in needing to recognize and rectify the sins of their ancestors.
Would be wildly bigoted and ignorant of history to segregate and exclude the modern day ancestors of Jewish Americans from their fellow modern day White American Christian countrymen in needing to recognize and rectify the sins of their ancestors.
This post was edited on 5/25/25 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:21 pm to tiger11
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It came from Jews.
100%
It’s crazy to me this isn’t well known at this point.
There were some despicable people in the past. Just because someone is despicable doesn’t mean everything they say is a lie. Just remember that.
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:25 pm to Jimbeaux
quote:
The nature of the product, the demand for it and the supply of it, sets the price and the profit.
The owners charge as much for a product as they think the customer will pay, regardless of the true cost of making and transporting the product. They look for any excuse to raise the price and refuse to lower prices when the crisis passes.
quote:Then why do profits go up and wages go down or stay the same? If men like Bill Gates got billions to give to charity, they got billions to pay their employees.
The wage rates are set by the difficulty in finding people to do the work.
quote:I agree with this.
There is nothing so mundane and yet so rare and valuable as good management, and its always undervalued. Even less understood and appreciated is creative vision and daring to start and lead a profitable company
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:31 pm to KiwiHead
quote:No, but he wasn't communist either. He was decidedly a free marketeer, disapproved of the socialist movement in France and later communists like Marx did not see Robespierre as a socialist or communist.
Maximilian Robespierre in 1792 was Jewish?
quote:- Marx
Camille Desmoulins, Danton, Robespierre, St.
Just, Napoleon, the heroes as well as the parties and the masses of the old
French Revolution, performed the task of their time – that of unchaining
and establishing modern bourgeois society – in Roman costumes and with
Roman phrases. The first one destroyed the feudal foundation and cut off the
feudal heads that had grown on it. The other created inside France the only
conditions under which free competition could be developed, parceled-out land
properly used, and the unfettered productive power of the nation employed; and
beyond the French borders it swept away feudal institutions everywhere, to
provide, as far as necessary, bourgeois society in France with an appropriate
up-to-date environment on the European continent. Once the new social formation
was established, the antediluvian colossi disappeared and with them also the
resurrected Romanism – the Brutuses, the Gracchi, the publicolas, the
tribunes, the senators, and Caesar himself. Bourgeois society in its sober
reality bred its own true interpreters and spokesmen in the Says, Cousins,
Royer-Collards, Benjamin Constants, and Guizots; its real military leaders sat
behind the office desk and the hog-headed Louis XVIII was its political chief.
Entirely absorbed in the production of wealth and in peaceful competitive
struggle, it no longer remembered that the ghosts of the Roman period had
watched over its cradle.
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:33 pm to BuckI
quote:The worker is nothing without the owner. Also, if the business fails, the worker simply gets another job. The owner loses everything and is forever ruined.
The owner is nothing without the worker
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:37 pm to BuckI
quote:
The owners charge as much for a product as they think the customer will pay, regardless of the true cost of making and transporting the product. They look for any excuse to raise the price and refuse to lower prices when the crisis passes.
That’s called demand.
Competition in the marketplace is the primary and best control for high prices.
quote:if only it were true that profits only go up!
Then why do profits go up and wages go down or stay the same? If men like Bill Gates got billions to give to charity, they got billions to pay their employees.
Wages go down or stay the same because there is an abundance of people willing to work for that wage or less. That’s it.
This post was edited on 5/25/25 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 5/25/25 at 5:38 pm to Harry Rex Vonner
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the Bolshevik revolution was 107 years ago dumbass
You’re just throwing mud, apropos of nothing. You must be trolling, or you’re stupid.
Again, YOU delineated a particular tyranny. When I asked which you responded that tyranny is tyranny. Well, YOU are the one who delineated. It’s you arguing with yourself. You still haven’t said which.
I’m the one who guessed Communism because you said “100 years”. Then you retort that the “Bolshevik Revolution was 107 years ago, dumbass”. I clearly thought so, but you were too stupid(?) to understand that. Or…you’re trolling?
And you say you’re not sure what my purpose was. Well, originally it was just to get you to clarify what you were saying because I was interested. Then you started name calling, so now I guess my purpose is just insulting you, which is easy, because as Walter Matthau’s character once said to Tommy Tune’s, “All the facts about you are insults.”
This post was edited on 5/25/25 at 5:43 pm
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