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re: Comcast hints at plan for paid fast lanes after net neutrality repeal

Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:38 pm to
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read a book.



Always the best policy
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134801 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:39 pm to
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read a book.



Always the best policy
Make sure you check with the Federal government to learn which books you should read.....
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134801 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:40 pm to
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Comparing Cox internet to Hughenet is laughable


Did I do that? LINK?
Posted by Yak
DuPage County
Member since May 2014
4672 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:40 pm to
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Make sure you check with the Federal government to learn which books you should read.....

or, you could leave it to the publishers who will let you only read three pages per day
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:41 pm to
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Mine is $67.99/month for "High Speed Preferred" service from Cox.


Do you even know what that means

How’s that router/Modem combo working out for you, since you keep talking about your internet going out and having to use mobile data.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:42 pm to
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Did I do that? LINK?


Come on bro

In previous threads you have been pushing the satellite and cell data providers are ISPs in the same realm at wired connection providers.
Posted by landhawg
Member since Feb 2012
587 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:44 pm to
good. capitalism at work. poor people fuuuuucked
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134801 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:49 pm to
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In previous threads you have been pushing the satellite and cell data providers are ISPs in the same realm at wired connection providers.
And you keep arguing that it requires a wire going into your residence in order to access the internet.

That's just sooooo 20th century thinking.....
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:54 pm to
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And you keep arguing that it requires a wire going into your residence in order to access the internet.


You keep trying to compare the products that are not comparable.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:56 pm to
That is backwards

All the innovation up to now has not had netneutrality
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 3:58 pm to
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you could leave it to the publishers who will let you only read three pages per day




And zing, dont forget I have to pay extra if I want to read fast.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126745 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:02 pm to
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All the innovation up to now has not had netneutrality


Hulu TV and YouTube TV say otherwise
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:15 pm to
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FIFY


The government is incompetent. Comcast has proven every single chance it’s ever gotten to be malicious and nefarious. They have a lower approval rating than the IRS. It’s as bizarre as saying “Hey Ted says he’s not going to kill anymore, so let’s give him another chance. 84th time may be the charm.”
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31524 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:22 pm to
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That is backwards

All the innovation up to now has not had netneutrality


That is incorrect, all of the innovation up to now has been done under the premise of net neutrality even if it wasn't codified into law until recently.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:31 pm to
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I never understood the liberal mentality of business being bad for the consumer while government is good.


Because you don’t understand the difference between capitalism and corporatism.

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There is incentive for Comcast to do right by the consumers because of competition. They need to make us happy and give us stuff we want at a good price or else we bail and go elsewhere and they lose money. They want to make as much money as possible and that requires us to volunteer our money for their services over the services of their competitors. If I break their rules, they cancel my subscription and I have to go elsewhere.


You’re fricking with me, right? You can’t possibly be this stupid and understand how a keyboard works.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31524 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:42 pm to
LINK

AT&T and Comcast lawsuit has nullified a city’s broadband competition law

AT&T and Comcast have convinced a federal judge to nullify an ordinance that was designed to bring more broadband competition to Nashville, Tennessee.

The Nashville Metro Council last year passed a "One Touch Make Ready" rule that gives Google Fiber or other new ISPs faster access to utility poles. The ordinance lets a single company make all of the necessary wire adjustments on utility poles itself, instead of having to wait for incumbent providers like AT&T and Comcast to send work crews to move their own wires.

AT&T and Comcast sued the metro government in US District Court in Nashville, claiming that federal and local laws preempt the One Touch Make Ready rule. Judge Victoria Roberts agreed with AT&T and Comcast in a ruling issued Tuesday.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46788 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:51 pm to
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Because you don’t understand the difference between capitalism and corporatism.
From Merriam-Webster:

Corporatism
the organization of a society into industrial and professional corporations serving as organs of political representation and exercising control over persons and activities within their jurisdiction

Capitalism
an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

I'm describing concepts of Capitalism where competition in a free market prevents one corporation from screwing over everyone. If you don't think there's enough competition to keep Comcast from screwing over their customers, you should look at the reasons why there isn't enough competition, not immediately jump to government ownership or regulation.

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You’re fricking with me, right? You can’t possibly be this stupid and understand how a keyboard works.
You're not going to win friends and influence people with statements like that.

Since you don't seem to understand what I was saying, I'll try to rephrase it: if there is competition between similar or same products or services in a free market, consumers can choose where to get their products or services from. They will choose the products or services that generally provides the best quality with the most options for the lowest price. If Comcast is sticking it to their customers on quality, options, and/or price, their customers will go to their competitor(s) who are offering more bang for their buck. It's why Comcast loses cable customers to Dish and vice versa and why both are losing business to Sling, PS Vu, and other streaming services. That's just how economics works. That threat of customers leaving for a competitor is what keeps Comcast (and other companies) in check. They aren't all-powerful like you think they are.

The only good thing the government can do here is to prevent monopolies from forming and encourage competition by helping reduce barriers to the market. Otherwise, they should stay out altogether.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
46788 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:52 pm to
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If only that were the case. In most markets the consumers are left with only one realistic option.
That's not true at all.

But for sake of argument, let's say that were true. The solution is to encourage competition, not keep a monopoly that the state controls.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:57 pm to
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I’m still just in shock that people are dumb enough to think that anything Comcast wants is going to be good. Believing Comcast is up to something good like believing the same about Ted Bundy.
who said something good? You guys sure like the setup your strawman

Companies compete. Despite the ignorance displayed on this board competition exist on multiple fronts. Not just between direct peer competitors

No human endeavor results in perfectly even results. This reality is what causes almost everyone who is in economic idiot to ask the government to try and accomplish that task. Somehow of course forgetting that government is composed of humans also.

So you guys can run around with your hair on fire all you want and beat up straw man if you like. But that's all you're doing
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 4:58 pm to
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Oh please let this price middle class and lower middle class Trump entusiast off the internet.
Hillary as all Democrats dominated the lower class vote so I don't know what the frick you're talking about
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