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re: Colorado offered free birth control — and teen births fell by 40 percent
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:43 pm to La Place Mike
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:43 pm to La Place Mike
For conservatives lauding this, you are praising a form of statism
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Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:44 pm to cwill
I haven't read your posts, tbh. Every one that I have read is you disregarding someone's opinion.
Get over yourself. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they're wrong. You act like my mother.
Get over yourself. Just because someone doesn't agree with you, doesn't mean they're wrong. You act like my mother.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:49 pm to La Place Mike
quote:
quote: Confused you with Laplace Mike. I answered your question.
Missed it as I was rolling through a number of responses.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:50 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
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I haven't read your posts, tbh. Every one that I have read is you disregarding someone's opinion.
I can tell you don't read my posts or consider facts.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 8:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted by HailHailtoMichigan! For conservatives lauding this, you are praising a form of statism
I don't think you know what conservativism is.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:12 pm to cwill
all other efforts have failed. the south as a whole has failed at teens having babies.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:25 pm to monsterballads
quote:I guess you could say that. I wonder what the teen birth rate would be if the state didn't subsidize having children.
all other efforts have failed. the south as a whole has failed at teens having babies.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:30 pm to benhamin5555
quote:If states offered free vasectomies, free tubal ligation etc etc, it would reduce unwanted pregnancy too. Hell. if the state made it a crime punishable by 5 years in prison to get pregnant under 18, it would reduce teen births.
Colorado offered free birth control — and teen births fell by 40 percent
Just because a result is positive doesn't make a policy one we should institute.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:33 pm to monsterballads
quote:Given that the teen rate for blacks/hispanics is more than double that of whites/asians, is what you describe a southern policy problem or merely a demographic one?
all other efforts have failed. the south as a whole has failed at teens having babies.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:46 pm to ShortyRob
quote:I would have no problem with this. Anyone else?
If states offered free vasectomies, free tubal ligation etc etc, it would reduce unwanted pregnancy too.
quote:Not as much as you would think. And for every guilty verdict there would be $100K in court costs plus $50K per year to incarcerate plus whatever it takes to now take care of the many parent-less children. Plus War on Women for making it a crime to get pregnant. ]
Hell. if the state made it a crime punishable by 5 years in prison to get pregnant under 18, it would reduce teen births.
quote:Please tell me the reasons why we wouldn't institute policies that have positive results? I would only reject one if there was some significant negative result that couldn't be ignored. What would that be in the case of subsidizing contraceptives, etc?
Just because a result is positive doesn't make a policy one we should institute.
Posted on 7/7/14 at 9:50 pm to mmcgrath
quote:Damn. Really? You can't think of any policy that might have a "positive" result that you wouldn't be a big fan of?
Please tell me the reasons why we wouldn't institute policies that have positive results?
OK. The Death penalty for ANYONE caught stealing ANYTHING. Only one appeal allowed and 12 months to get it in.
That would absolutely result in less theft.
Should I go on?
quote:So, you would be OK with the govt doing literally ANYTHING at ANY expense as long as the result was positive and there were no DIRECT negative results(other than significant expenditure of other people's money)? Wow. Just wow.
I would only reject one if there was some significant negative result that couldn't be ignored
Posted on 7/7/14 at 10:13 pm to ShortyRob
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is what you describe a southern policy problem or merely a demographic one?
both more than likely. i'm against state sponsored everything for the most part, but the parents have failed. if something isn't done to curb the out of control unwanted baby birth rate...
Posted on 7/8/14 at 12:03 am to benhamin5555
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Thoughts?
The right wing WANTS teen birth rates to be high. It helps keep the poor down. If poor women had babies at a later age they'd be in less desperate circumstances and could demand higher wages or maybe even go to college. We can't have that.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 12:04 am
Posted on 7/8/14 at 12:14 am to SpidermanTUba
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The right wing WANTS teen birth rates to be high. It helps keep the poor down. If poor women had babies at a later age they'd be in less desperate circumstances and could demand higher wages or maybe even go to college. We can't have that.
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son
Posted on 7/8/14 at 12:14 am to ehidal1
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Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son
Thanks. Seriously. Its a lot easier to learn from your mistakes than my own.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 12:15 am
Posted on 7/8/14 at 12:16 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:You hack.
The right wing WANTS teen birth rates to be high. It helps keep the poor down. If poor women had babies at a later age they'd be in less desperate circumstances and could demand higher wages or maybe even go to college. We can't have that.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 12:26 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:The women who give birth early as you describe vote as a virtual block for Democrats. Meanwhile, those women who wait, get settled and then have babies are SUBSTANTIALLY more likely to vote Republican. But yeah. I'm sure in your idiotic mind, your assertion made sense.
The right wing WANTS teen birth rates to be high. It helps keep the poor down. If poor women had babies at a later age they'd be in less desperate circumstances and could demand higher wages or maybe even go to college. We can't have that.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:12 am to The Third Leg
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We should be flooding the market with contraceptives, especially in poor hoods and schools. I'd even be fine with subsidizing the shot with a $100 monthly check if they attend a scared straight teen mom class, all subsidized. All day.
A-freaking-men.
I can think of very few things I'd rather have my tax money go toward than government provided birth control in every conceivable form to absolutely anyone who wants it. I'm fine with subsidizing it as well. Show up for your Depo-Provera shot, get that check.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:32 am to Stuckinthe90s
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I honestly would 100% be in favor of using my tax dollars to pay for free birth control if it meant abortion would be outlawed and made a felony manslaughter.
This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 2:39 am
Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:29 am to Them
The poor and stupid need to be managed like any other herd of livestock.
That's pretty much what they are to liberals - votes on the hoof.
That's pretty much what they are to liberals - votes on the hoof.
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