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re: Col Douglas Macgregor Has a Slightly Different Take on Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:24 am to
Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:24 am to
Someone needs to tell Ukrainians Putin is really okay because a whole lot them don't want to be ruled by him at all.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:27 am to
Looks like the dems puppet was told not to meet with Putin. They told him in public to not meet with Putin's delegation. IRL they are screaming at their puppet.

How far will Biden take this to wag the dog?
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 6:28 am
Posted by Torqued Pork
Malvern
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:30 am to
Puppet or not, it's very damn obvious the vast majority of Ukrainians want no part of being ruled by Putin.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 6:42 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:33 am to
Fox this morning said the Russian forces were stalled, then proceeded to circle 3 cities behind the stall that were taken. It makes no sense
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:39 am to
They are stalling for peace talks. Biden admin won't let their puppet

BTW: what happened to covid?

LINK
Posted by Folsom
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 6:49 am to
Ukraine realities. 2nd largest European population with 43 million. Huge resources including agriculture and could easily provide for half a billion people. The sons of the following USA deep staters are on huge Ukraine energy company boards— Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, Joe Biden, Mitt Romney (if no longer there it is only very recent). Look up as well Burisma Holdings. Our “first family” is totally compromised and enmeshed with all things Ukraine. Soros has “owned” Ukraine since 2012 or more and especially all east Ukraine is under his dominion with neo nazi cronies in all power positions. This and Kazakhstan were epicenter for Illuminati and for future official world headquarters. The weapons they were bringing in were direct threat to Putin and he had no choice but stop next level (nukes). All government officials who have attempted to bring clean up to the corruption have been fired, threatened or killed. The whole nation has been a captured operation and that is all changing. Over 5 trillion dollars in money laundering since the Clintons and it has been #1 money laundering operation in Europe. Yes, the bulk of Ukrainians are innocent and unaware of what is really happening. Putin sent word to Ukraine military reminding them they swore allegiance not to a global cabal but to defend their people. President Zelensky even if good had no way to clean up infiltration from within. He was put in originally by Soros, Obama and Davos Group but has possibly/likely been flipped to cooperate with rescuing the nation. Figure it out from there.
Posted by H newman
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 7:05 am to
So listen to Griffin? Damn.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:15 am to
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Bitch journalist made an arse of herself stumbling through empty buzzword talking points to "correct" the brilliant Colonel.




Rooster head only understood half of what Macgregor was saying. Rooster head had no clue what Macgregor was talking about when he mentioned the Dnieper River.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:25 am to
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Puppet or not, it's very damn obvious the vast majority of Ukrainians want no part of being ruled by Putin.




East of the Dneiper River the majority of people are with Putin, especially Luhansk and Donetsk. The Ukrainian rebles that have been fighting Zelenskyy for the past 2 years are from Luhansk and Donesk. These people are ethic Russians and speak Russian too.

So it's a little more complicated than the "vast majority of Ukrainians want no part of being ruled by Putin".
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:25 am to
Essentially, Macgregor is saying that Russia does not want to engage a civilian population and is making every effort to avoid civilian conflict in those population centers

That would explain the lack of video of the "atrocities".
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:26 am to
quote:

Fox this morning said the Russian forces were stalled, then proceeded to circle 3 cities behind the stall that were taken. It makes no sense




Talking points not matching reality.

News at 6.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:29 am to
quote:

. President Zelensky even if good had no way to clean up infiltration from within. He was put in originally by Soros, Obama and Davos Group but has possibly/likely been flipped to cooperate with rescuing the nation.


This is the best case scenario but is highly unlikely. Zelenskyy will have no friends in the west to make this move to secure Ukraine in such a manner.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:33 am to
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President Zelensky ... was put in originally by Soros, Obama and Davos Group
Negative. You're thinking of Poroshenko, who Zelensky beat.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 8:34 am
Posted by WWII Collector
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:37 am to
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I think he's correct.


I agree... He makes a ton of sense..
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:39 am to
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It definitely aligns more with what we have seen so far given the firepower that Russia possesses.

Because it's what is happening. Putin wants the ethnic Russian areas in the south and east and to get rid of the puppet government in Kiev. He can't just go in and wreck the big cities because NATO will use it as an excuse to enter the war. The whole narrative of "OMG Ukraine so powerful and fights so hard@!@!!11" is ignorant as frick. People need to do some research on the recent history of Ukraine and the demographics of the country and all of this makes complete sense. Stop watching twitter and MSM news. They will only give propaganda not real information.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:42 am to
Exactly, the authoritarian bullshite we’re getting from our ruling class is bullshite.

But all the simpletons are too husy being useful little fricking idiots while we continue buying oil and gas from Russia.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
162996 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:43 am to
The saddest thing about all of this-and there is plenty of sadness- Is Jennifer Griffen not being a real investigative reporter. She repeats Pentagon talking points.

Even Bongino has gone for the fat Fox paycheck. Gowdy is Paul Ryan's man, and I don't even trust Jason Chaffetz.
This post was edited on 2/28/22 at 8:44 am
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:45 am to
Russia has at least 30% support in Ukraine
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:48 am to
I don’t disagree with Macgregor’s opinion but Macgregor is not acknowledging the past statements of Putin’s desires to reconstitute the Russian Empire. My concern is Putin has tried to target the government stability of Ukraine and he grossly underestimated the street level fight in the Ukrainian people to oppose Putin’s invasion. Putin could have taken the border regions of Ukraine that are loyal to Russia and probably got away with minimal consequences but now he’s fricked himself and the Russian people over by committing to remove Ukraine’s president from power.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 2/28/22 at 8:50 am to
I think the street level fight by civilians is completely overblown. Most people ditched the big cities in the first day or two
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