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re: Cohen claims Trump instructed him to lie to congress

Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:19 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:19 pm to
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Cohen liked to record his conversations with Trump.
yep. And we heard the one where he told Cohen any payments to the ladies had to be in the up and up. That should tell you something.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:19 pm to
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I’m guessing a conversation where he’s being told to commit a federal crime would be one he might want to hold on too.


You’re going balls deep on this one huh? it’s gonna be hilarious to again watch you and yours get embarrassed when this gets walked back
Posted by DevilDogTiger
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:20 pm to
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This is the beginning of the end.

Yes, this is finally it. After hearing the same shite from sky screamers for 2 years this is it!
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:22 pm to
My favorite part is “nobody ever says “we got him”, that’s just a dumb right-wing meme”.

Yet they have people in this thread saying those exact words
Posted by die444die
USA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:22 pm to
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The better question is: Why wasn't Cohen charged with, or convicted for, lying to Congress?


He was. He plead guilty.
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 11:23 pm
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:24 pm to
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Except The only recording they’ve released has trump telling Cohen to make sure the payments to the girls were legal with the campaign finance laws...So....


If a tape of this magnitude actually exist and would be the end of the sitting president, don't you think it would be held until a report or indictment was released? If true it's a federal crime and obstruction of justice.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:24 pm to
You would think some would learn but it’s the same posters from years ago posting the same shite... and believing it! I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. Do they ever learn?
Posted by Haughton99
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:26 pm to
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You’re going balls deep on this one huh? it’s gonna be hilarious to again watch you and yours get embarrassed when this gets walked back


I’m not claiming it’s true. It could be all BS. It is buzzfeed and dropping a story like this late in the evening seems strange.

But, if it’s true I don’t see how anyone wouldn’t think it’s a massive problem for the President.

Looking back on the confirmation hearing of the AG it’s obvious now that the Senators already knew about this.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:26 pm to
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He’s a pathological liar with a history of perjury. frick him.
Which one are we talking about now?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:28 pm to
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it’s gonna be hilarious to again watch you and yours get embarrassed when this gets walked back


He won’t be embarrassed. It will just be on to the new fake news story.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:28 pm to
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Wait, so not only did Trump "direct" Cohen to lie to Congress but the Trump organization vigorously documented it in email and other documents?


Since when did Donald Trump start using either texting or email?

Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:28 pm to
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Regardless of the legitimacy of these claims, the fact that law enforcement may be leaking to buzzfeed is sad beyond measure, and illegal.


Seriously. The sitting president, if this article is true, may have committed a federal crime and you're upset at federal agents for leaking the truth?

What can Trump do that his supporters would find him at fault?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:28 pm to
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This revelation is not the first evidence to suggest the president may have attempted to obstruct the FBI and special counsel investigations into Russia’s interference in the 2016 election.


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Now the two sources have told BuzzFeed News that Cohen also told the special counsel that after the election, the president personally instructed him to lie — by claiming that negotiations ended months earlier than they actually did — in order to obscure Trump’s involvement.


If Trump instructed Cohen to lie to congress right after the election how is this obstruction? When did these instructions to lie to congress occur?

Was there an FBI investigation or special counsel at the time and for what reason....what crime?

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:29 pm to
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Seriously. The sitting president, if this article is true, may have committed a federal crime and you're upset at federal agents for leaking the truth?


Both are crimes
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:30 pm to
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My favorite part is “nobody ever says “we got him”, that’s just a dumb right-wing meme”.

Yet they have people in this thread saying those exact words
I mean this is the first time we have a specific example of Trump potentially (if true) committing a clear crime, not just some election law violation or something that takes a lot of legal stretching to argue as a crime.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:32 pm to
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Both are crimes
Leaking information isn’t a crime in and of itself. It may be cause for termination, and just a bad idea in the first place, but unless it’s classified or something, it’s probably not illegal.
This post was edited on 1/17/19 at 11:32 pm
Posted by Doresrules
Dallas, Tx
Member since Dec 2012
4451 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:33 pm to
Dude, if you instruct someone to lie to Congress and it can be proven it is a federal crime. Period. It doesn't matter when it happened.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:34 pm to
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What can Trump do that his supporters would find him at fault?

Any evidence. Seriously any at all. Any hard proof of anything at all. A smidgen of evidence if you will. Anything other than “reported that people close to the situation said multiple sauces”...
These threads make the Q thread seem rational.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35381 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:36 pm to
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If Trump instructed Cohen to lie to congress right after the election how is this obstruction?
Because the president directing a person to commit perjury is obstruction, like a classic example of it.
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Was there an FBI investigation or special counsel at the time and for what reason....what crime?
What do you mean? Won’t doesn’t have to lie about a crime for the lie itself to be a crime.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6128 posts
Posted on 1/17/19 at 11:37 pm to
Always like watching these threads right after big news hits to see what the Trump supporters reaction is before Limbaugh, Hannity, etal have a chance to tell them what to think. Pre-talking points threads are the best.
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