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re: Cocaine Inflation Erupts After U.S. Strikes On Caribbean Drug Boats

Posted on 12/2/25 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
72099 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 1:17 pm to
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This is still first half of Barry's 2nd term. Fake pills were around a long time before trump. It's not to say trump improved anything, but that path was laid long before he even decided to run.

Which is why my base statement is that the Fed created the opioid crisis and its efforts to "fix" it created the fentanyl crisis.

Prior to the increased pressure on legitimate (we can debate that legitimacy when it comes to some, but it isn't needed here) pain clinics, the issue was primarily limited to the "traditional" populations impacted by illicit drug use. When Donald's CDC changed prescription guidelines and the FDA tightened down on the laws governing clinics that shifted the problem into the mainstream population that, until then, had a legal drug problem, but a drug problem nonetheless.

That is the point that the clean cut types in the suburbs started to notice, and actually care, about the problem. It had found it's way into "civilized" society. The endless line of "normal" people that could be found going in and out of every pain clinic in the country were directly and immediately impacted by being cut off. Their problems didn't just go away. Millions of criminals were created overnight from those regulations.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
38143 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 1:22 pm to
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The only reason you don't do cocaine is because it isn't readily available?



Oh, look. Another useful idiot.
Most posters at least make an effort at offering a rebuttal before resorting to the personal attacks.

I am disappoint.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
72099 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 1:22 pm to
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Quit living in the past. AI didn’t exist for the past 40 years. Now it does.

If you’re using cocaine/crack I encourage you to stop. Drugs are bad.

What retarded shite are you babbling about?
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
58020 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:01 pm to
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No. It's fentanyl.


That's how bad your stance is, you have to change my analogy for it to fit what you're wanting.

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People get emotional (scared) and give up rights to a more powerful government to protect them from the boogeyman.

You literally are fearmongering about how taking out drug dealers because they may be smuggling cocaine instead of fentanyl is somehow giving up rights, then saying the other side is scared.

The only one scared here is you.
This post was edited on 12/2/25 at 5:48 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
15187 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 3:22 pm to
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So the boats aren't taking fentanyl to the US?


Who cares about the name it's all toxic poison that kill Americans and destroys lives. If you're a true American patriot you should be thankful and ,FOR ONCE, stop with the " what about" "gotcha " game you love.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52600 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 7:18 pm to
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Only a retard would call me a leftist. I'm one of the few remaining capitalism proponents on here, rejecting the leftist economics of MAGA's right-populism.

I agree with you on this. However, I think your blind spots are:
1. You want the USA to practice free market trading with countries that are protectionist.
2. You are calloused to the fact that the world has an almost unending supply of emerging cheap labor, and that constant exposure to that is stressing the American labor force too much.
3. There are strategic necessities - like semiconductors - that we simply must produce here.

I’d like to see you temper your arguments with a nod to these, even. though you needn’t agree that tariffs are the solution.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52600 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 7:35 pm to
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Your .1% is off and way low. Even in the 80s prior to opioids.

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Low overall rates: The age-adjusted rate of drug overdose deaths involving cocaine was relatively low and stable, at approximately 1.3 to 2.5 deaths per 100,000 population between 2000 and 2013.


A fraction is made of a numerator and a denominator; you have screwed up both in your rebuttal, which miraculously, and in spite of screwing up everything, is still probably correct.

The 0.1% you were rebutting was an estimate of # of drug users who died divided by total number of drug users. Your rebuttal cited the total annual number of drug overdoses multiplied by 100,000 divided by the total population.

To salvage your point, if we assume that 10% of the population were drug users at some point in their life then your statistic goes to 1.3 to 2.5 annual deaths per 10,000 users. And if the average lifespan was 70 years that goes to 91 to 175 deaths per 10,000 user lifetimes or 0.9% to 1.75%. So at least 9 times as much as he claimed.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11315 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 11:14 pm to
Cocaine addicts aren't looking for an opiate high. If anything they would go to meth since you need coke to make crack.
Posted by duckblind56
South of Ellick
Member since Sep 2023
4556 posts
Posted on 12/2/25 at 11:17 pm to
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You are playing word games as if cocaine is not laced with fentanyl and as if people didn't OD on cocaine before fentanyl was a thing.


He's just being the bitch he loves playing on here just because, he loves attention.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26163 posts
Posted on 12/3/25 at 3:11 am to
Coke and Poppy based drugs could be ended in a month because they have to be grown. Spot them on satellite, use napalm and no more supply. Same thing with weed.
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