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Posted on 6/22/17 at 1:50 pm to OMLandshark
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How about you watch the piece that carefully explains it?
Oliver strikes me as a highly over rated monologueist..predictable and tiresome once you get his shtick. just my opinion..others may feel differently. That said, is what Oliver accused Murray of true or simply exaggerated criticism?? Specifically, what is he claiming Murray did?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:02 pm to MastrShake
Ditto, it's a top heavy industry that leaves it's workers worse off after they're finished. Coal is a sham and should be completely phased out of the energy sector within the next 5-10 years.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:02 pm to Dale51
LINK
Watch for yourself. Among other things, lying about the reasons for a mine collapse, paying out bonuses of ~$3, and taking out massive bonuses while declaring bankruptcy.
Also having a rally where Hannity went total creep mode.
Watch for yourself. Among other things, lying about the reasons for a mine collapse, paying out bonuses of ~$3, and taking out massive bonuses while declaring bankruptcy.
Also having a rally where Hannity went total creep mode.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:05 pm to BigOrangeVols
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Coal is a sham
How so?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:06 pm to Dale51
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Oliver strikes me as a highly over rated monologueist..predictable and tiresome once you get his shtick. just my opinion..others may feel differently. That said, is what Oliver accused Murray of true or simply exaggerated criticism?? Specifically, what is he claiming Murray did?
Watch the piece. He did nothing more than his usual stuff. It's bullshite and he's got no case.
And anyone cheering for this is no better than the SJW pussies who shut down college speaking engagements.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:07 pm to Dale51
Not sure about coal as a "sham".
But we certainly can and should take steps to remove it from our energy mix. Natural gas can pick up that slack.
But we certainly can and should take steps to remove it from our energy mix. Natural gas can pick up that slack.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:10 pm to lionward2014
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Among other things, lying about the reasons for a mine collapse, paying out bonuses of ~$3, and taking out massive bonuses while declaring bankruptcy.
After things like mines collapsing, there is always an investigation. What were the conclusions of any investigation? (I honestly know nothing of the situation).
$3 bonuses to whom? Were the bonuses a product of a formula based on that company's earnings, or a "Snidely Whiplash" decision by one man..Murray?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:11 pm to Dale51
It's inefficient and harmful as both an energy source and job source. Burns dirty, extraction is devastating on local environment/economy, reclamation often isn't carried out properly, inefficient compared to other energy sources, etc... It's was great for spurring the industrial revolution but it doesn't belong in the 21st century. You can debate/defend the merits of Nat Gas/Petrol but coal is dead.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:13 pm to gthog61
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Oliver sounds like an asswipe making fun of appearance, figures that is you speed
Maybe he should've called him "vermin" over and over and over and over again.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:15 pm to OMLandshark
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Watch the piece. He did nothing more than his usual stuff. It's bull shite and he's got no case. And anyone cheering for this is no better than the SJW pussies who shut down college speaking engagements.
We may be talking across each other. My position was not on the validity of a defamation case. I was curious about the claims that this individual...not a company or industry..is somehow corrupt or an "evil capitalist", unlike Oliver's 5 million for talking..which makes him and other rich leftists "good capitalists".
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:16 pm to DeathValley85
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Not sure about coal as a "sham".
But we certainly can and should take steps to remove it from our energy mix. Natural gas can pick up that slack.
You just don't like coal because its black.
J/
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:19 pm to Dale51
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omehow corrupt or an "evil capitalist"
No point arguing with you since you clearly haven't and won't actually watch the video, but that was never once his claim, or even hinted at really.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:19 pm to rbWarEagle
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He can afford the frivolous lawsuit. He wants Murray exposed and that's what he's getting. Murray is a piece of shite and now a lot more people are going to hear about it
So in your world if you do not like them John Oliver can say anything even if its not true.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:22 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
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So in your world if you do not like them John Oliver can say anything even if its not true.
What did John Oliver say that wasn't true in that piece?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:23 pm to DawgfaninCa
The court is owned by coal. wv.
Might actually win.
How dare he mock someone on a comedy show?
Might actually win.
How dare he mock someone on a comedy show?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:24 pm to BigOrangeVols
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inefficient compared to other energy sources, etc... It's was great for spurring the industrial revolution but it doesn't belong in the 21st century. You can debate/defend the merits of Nat Gas/Petrol but coal is dead.
I agree with most of that. In the framework of efficiency of other energy sources, how do you feel about throwing more money at green scams like wind and solar? Just curious.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:31 pm to DeafVallyBatnR
What did Oliver say that wasn't true?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:32 pm to lionward2014
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No point arguing with you since you clearly haven't and won't actually watch the video,
Sorry..I'm not spending 24 minutes watching a leftie evangelist bloviate and "cleverly" quip.
Cliff notes anyone?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 2:34 pm to Dale51
LOL, well if you think wind/solar are "scams" then this will be an exercise in futility.
We're able to produce enough energy off of both in the US alone to power the entire world. That said, the issues with solar and wind are a mixture of efficiency and distribution. The remedies for those are technological advancement largely in the efficiency and storage capacity of batteries, unlike coal which is and always will be inefficient in every facet.
Wind is a local-based energy which is largely ineffective in the SE. Solar on the other hand will be making a very large boom within the next decade as the technology behind it is beginning to catch up with the market.
We're able to produce enough energy off of both in the US alone to power the entire world. That said, the issues with solar and wind are a mixture of efficiency and distribution. The remedies for those are technological advancement largely in the efficiency and storage capacity of batteries, unlike coal which is and always will be inefficient in every facet.
Wind is a local-based energy which is largely ineffective in the SE. Solar on the other hand will be making a very large boom within the next decade as the technology behind it is beginning to catch up with the market.
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