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CNN headline: Democrats demand to see healthcare bill.

Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:35 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118854 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:35 am
Why do senate Democrats even care about the bill that McConell and the rest of the senate GOPers are putting together? They have already vowed to vote against the bill.
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:37 am to
And I demand they STFU and sit down. Elections have consequences.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7838 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:38 am to
Gotta pass it to see what's in it.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39498 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:39 am to
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They have already vowed to vote against the bill.


Regardless of what it says.

Sad.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45739 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:40 am to
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Gotta pass it to see what's in it.

Ha! That's what I was thinking.
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30898 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:41 am to
Aren't the rest of the Republicans also demanding to see the bill? From some of the Republicans they've interviewed, they're keeping it a secret from a good portion of their own party as well.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:41 am to
Regardless, I'd call their bluff. Give them all copies and ask them for their input.

Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:44 am to
While I don't disagree with the idea of the bill being transparent, the story around it is also incredibly dishonest. Even if the GOP passes the bill in the Senate it will go to a Conference Committee with the House before passing. This is a LONG way from becoming law and the truth is there will be a lot of time to debate the particulars. This whole "The GOP is trying to pass a bill in that is going to take away your HC and no one will see it!" is just nonsense.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118854 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:44 am to
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Aren't the rest of the Republicans also demanding to see the bill?


Yes I think this is right. I don't mind it either...we tend to eat our own.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19711 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:44 am to
You have to vote for it to see what's in it. Everyone knows that
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:48 am to
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CNN headline: Democrats demand to see healthcare bill.
While I don't disagree with the idea of the bill being transparent, the story around it is also incredibly dishonest. Even if the GOP passes the bill in the Senate it will go to a Conference Committee with the House before passing. This is a LONG way from becoming law and the truth is there will be a lot of time to debate the particulars. This whole "The GOP is trying to pass a bill in that is going to take away your HC and no one will see it!" is just nonsense.




Complaints from the party that passed a healthcare bill that literally let the Director of Health & Human Services do whatever he wanted in regards to setting heath insurance standards complaining about this proposed bill ring extremely hollow.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:49 am to
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This is a LONG way from becoming law and the truth is there will be a lot of time to debate the particulars.


Maybe, maybe not. The House pushed their's through pretty quickly, and the Senate is doing the same. If they can get it done before the July 4th holiday(McConnell's goal), they can hash it out in conference committee fairly quickly, assuming the bills aren't that far apart. The R's are DESPERATE for major tax reform, and need this bill passed first to do that. ACA repeal frees up a bunch of money they can allocate to tax cuts. Don't believe their desire to repeal ACA. Their end goal has always been major tax cuts and reform.
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22320 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:52 am to
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Gotta pass it to see what's in it.

Yes - but parliamentary procedure CLEARLY states that only Democrats can do this.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18800 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:54 am to
Millions are going to die in the streets. Immediately. Literally.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 11:57 am to
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Regardless, I'd call their bluff. Give them all copies and ask them for their input.


You do realize that GOP had more than 100 amendments proposed and accepted into the final ACA bill.

That's why it's silly to say ACA was rushed in thru back door meetings and secrecy. Even more so compared to this anti-democratic "process".
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7838 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:01 pm to
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Yes - but parliamentary procedure CLEARLY states that only Democrats can do this.


shite. I must have missed that when I was conducting my extensive investigation into why the president got 2 scoops of ice cream.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67490 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

CNN headline: Democrats demand to see healthcare bill.

Reps demand Dems suck a bag of dicks
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:12 pm to
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Why do senate Democrats even care about the bill that McConell and the rest of the senate GOPers are putting together?

you would be having a shite fit if this was reversed. to have a bill that goes up to vote that has not been read by the senate is a fricking horrible idea.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9496 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Democrats demand to see healthcare bill.


Beg Bitches Beg
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
27881 posts
Posted on 6/20/17 at 12:42 pm to
Why do you want them to pass a bill that they will let absolutely no one see before voting on it?

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