re: Classical Liberal Perspective: Race and Taxation

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Any of the white supremacist groups and affiliate organizations that support them.

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How many white racist groups, that are functioning in society now, are there compared to the black and Hispanic racist groups? Just a ballpark guess.

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Segregation deprived generations of blacks access to equal educational opportunities,

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There is some truth to the vestiges of prior housing segregation, in that people don't usually move very far from their current spot without a substantial change in lifestyle.

The educational issue, however, is no longer relevant. It took my mother's family a single generation to move from the squalid poverty of a tiny home with 8 children in the depression to solidly upper middle class. Some of them are even quite wealthy. The third and fourth generations are faring as well or better. This is due largely to education.

Educational segregation has been gone for for two generations. There is freedom of mobility at the primary level to the point of your economic limits. There are scholarship and admission policies that are race specific to ensure more than equal footing in the college application process. That has been ample time to show some substantial growth in the black middle class, but unfortunately, it's the poor underclass that has grown dramatically.

This is directly attributable to two factors that are overwhelmingly more common in the black community than in other races. First, is the occurrence of young, single mothers giving birth to multiple children with little or no presence from the father. Second is a lack of emphasis on, or interest in, even a basic level of education. I don't pretend to know why these situations exist, or why they are more common in some races than others, but they do, and they are.

We should honestly focus our efforts on discouraging these behaviors (among ALL races), that are, frankly, rewarded by the "safety net" of social welfare, rather than to gloss over them because the truth might be racially insensitive. To use a healthcare analogy, we're putting a bandaid on a problem that is approaching catastrophic organ failure.

And yes, Volod, taxation is mostly theft. It's use should be minimal. Hell, I'm not even opposed to the idea of the social safety net as long as it is minimal, and not meant to encourage a lifestyle across generations.

The definition is intentionally ambiguous.

It could be superiority in physical strength, creativity, building, etc.

I understand why you have issues with the "racism" argument in regard to Blacks.

Well, lets use another example.

The Nazi Party believed that Aryan race was superior. Not just to Jews (they were just the main target) but everybody.

That includes whites who were descended from different ancestry.

Now, Hitler knew other civilizations had come and gone LONG before Germany(hell even Prussia) existed.

But that didn't stop him from commit horrific acts in the sack of "purity"

That's the issue Zack. Its not the specific reason for the racism, its what the racism compels people to do.

Murder,rape, torture, and ultimately hurting someone's life not because of something they did to you.

Only out if a sense of malice and contempt for something they were born as.

Serious question. Do you think prejudices based on skin color are racist?

Yes. I do believe it is racist.

But it goes deeper than that.

I assume you are familiar with colorism. The variety within ones own race can cause issues.

For Blacks, we have a team light skin vs team dark skin. The stereotype is that lighter skin blacks are typically arrogant and narcissistic. While dark skin are more lazy and to violence.

Obviously there are a huge # of exceptions. But this can be seen in whites of various ethnic backgrounds and Hispanics (colonial vs natives).

Racism isn't always so much a superioty based hate. It can be feeling uncomfortable just because the person is X.

We all are racist to a certain extent. But its when that extent comes to subjugating or killing people that you go beyond simple platonic discrimination.

This is particularly why I say conservatives underestimate true problems concerning racism.

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I assume you are familiar with colorism. The variety within ones own race can cause issues.

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If 'colorism' is wrong is it also wrong that I have issues with obese people? They claim they are born that way.

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The only racism worth tackling are ones which put the life and economic well being of the individual in jeopardy.

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I agree.. like when a white guy gets passed up for a position by an under qualified minority just because they’re a minority


That’s something that needs to be addressed as well

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I meant we need to stop discrimination based on race (any race) for job applications.

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Didn’t realize you covered this, my bad fam

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Also, smaller businesses in more remote areas which specially exclude hiring minorities with appropriate qualifications or terminate them based on non-occupational / unproven reasons

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Such as a barber shop?

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I feel that BLM has their heart in the right place, but the head in wrong one

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BLM has nothing to do with black lives mattering, it’s all about white cops.

Why don’t they matter when the life is taken by another black man? Why don’t they matter when they are aborted by a black mother? Black woman have abortions at a rate much higher than any other. 5,000 black lives will be aborted this week, then 5,000 next week. I thought they mattered?

I really see no way to argue black lives are their priority when they aren’t in Chicago or outside of abortion clinics protesting. It’s literally just hate towards police/whites, yet twice as many white people will be killed by black people this year than vice versa. WLM? Nah...