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re: Church of England Priests Say Premarital, Gay Sex Not Immoral
Posted on 9/1/23 at 10:48 am to Azkiger
Posted on 9/1/23 at 10:48 am to Azkiger
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I don't recall quantifying how inversely related they are.
If atheists are conjuring up some moral system that they pretend has meaning it's not inversely related at all. No quantifying needed.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:03 am to Flats
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If atheists are conjuring up some moral system that they pretend has meaning
They find meaning in material things and existential bullshite which is why its impossible for the two sides to even begin to understand each other.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:20 am to Flats
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If atheists are conjuring up some moral system that they pretend has meaning it's not inversely related at all. No quantifying needed.
The only person here pretending is you. You cannot read minds, and cannot rationally say that atheists are "pretending".
Inversely related, indeed.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:31 am to Azkiger
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The only person here pretending is you. You cannot read minds, and cannot rationally say that atheists are "pretending".
Are you suggesting that they follow an arbitrary moral code that has no meaning to them? Because that doesn't sound very rational either.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:38 am to Flats
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Are you suggesting that they follow an arbitrary moral code that has no meaning to them?
No.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 11:54 am to RollTide1987
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Infallible doctrine =/= infallible people. The Church of England isn’t even Christian anymore.
The doctrine of the Catholic Church is infallible? No. Sorry.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:09 pm to Flats
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Are you suggesting that they follow an arbitrary moral code that has no meaning to them?
Most tend to be humanists. Its the philosophy that spun modern progressivism.
I find more honest people to be agnostic instead of atheists. Atheists always tend to be militant and angry.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Most tend to be humanists. Its the philosophy that spun modern progressivism.
I'd say humanists are more caught up in progressivism rather than the source for it.
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I find more honest people to be agnostic instead of atheists. Atheists always tend to be militant and angry.
The definitions of atheist and agnostic vary person to person.
If you think that atheism = belief that there are no god or gods than most "famous atheists" cease to be atheists. Dawkins, Harris, Hitchens, etc. express strong doubt, but do not claim there are no gods.
To me, atheism means someone who lacks a belief in god.
A = without (think asexual).
theism = belief in god.
Atheism = without belief in god.
But most people use it describe people who are sure there are no gods, then use that label and place it on people who claim no such thing.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Most tend to be humanists
Also not a particularly rational (by their definition) outlook if one believes in a materialistic universe.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:32 pm to AggieHank86
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I am still waiting for one of our Biblical scholars to cite the Biblical language which prohibits (or even condemns) premarital sex? Not broad, general, subjective statements about "sexual morality." A specific rejection of premarital sex. I think I will be waiting for a very, very long time.
Jesus left a church behind to teach the world how to follow him.
Not a book.
The church has always taught that any sex outside of marriage is sinful.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:34 pm to djmed
Amazing how accurate Revelation is of the last days.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 12:39 pm to Flats
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Also not a particularly rational (by their definition) outlook if one believes in a materialistic universe.
Yeah its laughable and childish foolishness.
You can not believe in a god and still be a decent person, in my views. But following existential meanderings is the path of a boring lost soul desperately seeking meaning in things that have no meaning..
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:38 pm to Lima Whiskey
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The Anglicans and the Episcopalians aren’t Christians.
To be fair, there are Episcopal/Anglican groups which have separated themselves from the mainline Episcopal denominations that have abandoned traditional Christianity for a heretical pseudo- Christianity. They subscribe to and uphold the ancient Faith in belief and practice.
As I’ve said before, there’s a pretty large number of us who’ve remained faithful to God and not bent our knees to Ba’al.
Posted on 9/1/23 at 8:43 pm to AggieHank86
Yeah. Paul coined a very specific term here.
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