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re: Chud the Builder case will be a referendum on self defense in America.

Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:38 am to
Posted by dstone12
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:38 am to
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defending themselves after being assaulted for saying “fighting words,” then our right to self defense is over.


The lexicon of acceptable language will change, never allowing us to know what is right.

Even when we know what’s on the lexicon, they know their vocab better than we do and they can change it if they feel like killing.

And shame on us for trying to know the vocab as well.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:51 am to
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Let someone threaten to kill you, then attack you from behind, hit you, knock you down and commence to stomping on your your head and see how you feel about self defense, you fricking retard.

I had no idea who this guy was before reading the thread. But if his social media post cited above is real, then he is dead wrong, and this was not self defense. He was trying to provoke this exact reaction.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:03 am to
I have never heard of Chud the Builder.
Whether or not he's an a-hole or intentionally insulting people, he has the right to do so regardless of how anyone feels about it.

The attacker also had a choice, he could've kept walking.... he didn't.

I'm not saying this Chud guy is a nice fella, but he simply defended himself.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:15 am to
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but he simply defended himself.

There are rules to defending yourself.

Karmelo Anthony just learned that lesson
Posted by dragginass
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:22 am to
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This post was edited on 6/26/26 at 11:43 am
Posted by hogcard1964
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:23 am to
This guy's out of jail now, right?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:25 am to
Metcalf pushed him (or was in the process which would be assault if he didn't complete the action to battery)

Anthony responded with disproportionate force, like Chud the Builder.

And yes, Anthony provoked the incident...Just like Chud the builder provoked the incident.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 7:26 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:27 am to
Didnt we already do this with Rittenhouse
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:29 am to
One was killed (rightfully so), and one lived.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:29 am to
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Didnt we already do this with Rittenhouse

Rittenhouse had much more legal justification for that level of self defense.

If the guy CTB killed had weapons that could cause death or serious bodily injury, it would be more comparable
Posted by stelly1025
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:29 am to
I may be in the minority on this board ,but frick that guy I have no sympathy. Going around and stirring people up for clicks and then when he sucessfully baited someone to fight him, he pulls a gun like a bitch. Don't be like the left and try to make this a-hole a hero. He is white trash that went around provoking people for clicks.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20784 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:32 am to
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he pulls a gun like a bitch. 


He may have said some words that some view as offensive, but when he (Chud) was leaving he was attacked and hit with a cane. ...and the thug that attacked him is still unfortunately alive.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479602 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:35 am to
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One was killed (rightfully so), and one lived.

Wait....are you saying Austin Metcalf was "rightfully" killed?
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20784 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:39 am to
No, I got that wrong. I meant to say irregardless
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 7:40 am
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10298 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:43 am to
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He may have said some words that some view as offensive, but when he (Chud) was leaving he was attacked and hit with a cane. ...and the thug that attacked him is still unfortunately alive.


So it rises to the level of killing someone? That is a stupid fricking arguement. Like I said you go around provoking people which he has done and when someone goes to fight he shoots them and says self defense? No that don't hunt and you sound just like the retards defending Karmelo Anthony.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 7:49 am
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
12901 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:47 am to
A better comparison than karmello is the Central pastor yesterday that whipped the neighbor's arse. Neighbor had been asking for it for years, but if he'd had a gun could have legally killed the pastor? I think the instigator should be held at fault for this kind of stuff.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
479602 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:50 am to
There is a reason why self defense almost universally has proportionality and provocation typically neuters self defense arguments.

This isn't some new leftist/progressive hype machine. This is traditional self defense stuff.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
20784 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:51 am to
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So it rises to the level of killing someone?


Chud didn't kill anyone. He probably should have, but unfortunately his attacker lived.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
17704 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:55 am to
I hope the case is decided on the merits and not on any one trying to set an example, but I do not feel an ounce of sympathy for CTB or the trouble he finds himself in.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 7:56 am
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
10298 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 7:57 am to
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Chud didn't kill anyone. He probably should have, but unfortunately his attacker lived.


Attempted murder. Like I said he is white trash and you are too if you try to make this guy your hero. It is the same with the blacks defending the other one.
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