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Christians get violent over McJesus
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:43 am
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:43 am
McJesus causes riots
This is a first in recent time as far as I know.
quote:
But not all of the rallies have been peaceful, officials say. Israeli police said rioters threw a firebomb and stones toward the museum late last week, wounding three officers, according to the AP. Authorities responded with tear gas and stun grenades.
This is a first in recent time as far as I know.
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:50 am to chity
This is exactly what the "artist" wanted. He go this name out there. Now, do one of Mohammed, pussy.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:50 am to chity
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Israeli police said rioters threw a firebomb and stones toward the museum late last week, wounding three officers, according to the AP. Authorities responded with tear gas and stun grenades.
The Jews don't take kindly to people mocking their greatest achievement
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:51 am to chity
Will anyone put out a fatwa (or whatever it’s called) on the ‘artist’?
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:51 am to CoachChappy
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Now, do one of Mohammed, pussy.
Now, that would be edgy and courageous.
And by that I mean suicidal.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:52 am to chity
John 18
10 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus
It happens
10 Then Simon Peter, who had a sword, drew it and struck the high priest’s servant, cutting off his right ear. (The servant’s name was Malchus
It happens
Posted on 1/16/19 at 9:57 am to chity
As an aside - what makes this "edgy" and "artistic"?
I mean, I watched Last Temptation of Christ (full disclosure - I'm Christian). I get it. Casts Judas in a heroic light, has Jesus with all these conflicted feelings, but ultimately has Jesus do what Christians believe he did and left the rest for the viewer to interpret.
Still heresy and probably blasphemy, but I get the interesting twists and assumption challenging in the film's story.
But just this example (McJesus) and then going back to (I believe Maplethorpe's) crucifix in a fishbowl full of urine - other than the per se outrage it is trying to provoke, what's edgy or artistic about that? Just trying too hard, IMHO.
Again, why don't these artsy types try that with Islam if provoking outrage and poking fun at religious figures is so edgy and artistic?
I mean, I watched Last Temptation of Christ (full disclosure - I'm Christian). I get it. Casts Judas in a heroic light, has Jesus with all these conflicted feelings, but ultimately has Jesus do what Christians believe he did and left the rest for the viewer to interpret.
Still heresy and probably blasphemy, but I get the interesting twists and assumption challenging in the film's story.
But just this example (McJesus) and then going back to (I believe Maplethorpe's) crucifix in a fishbowl full of urine - other than the per se outrage it is trying to provoke, what's edgy or artistic about that? Just trying too hard, IMHO.
Again, why don't these artsy types try that with Islam if provoking outrage and poking fun at religious figures is so edgy and artistic?
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 9:59 am
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:00 am to chity
For those who didn't actually read the article it's Arab Christians that are pissed.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:02 am to chity
Is McDonalds OK with this?
Kinda seems like a trademark violation.
Kinda seems like a trademark violation.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:10 am to Ace Midnight
quote:
But just this example (McJesus) and then going back to (I believe Maplethorpe's) crucifix in a fishbowl full of urine - other than the per se outrage it is trying to provoke, what's edgy or artistic about that? Just trying too hard, IMHO.
I wouldn't compare this work to Maplethorpe...Maplethorpe was commenting on religion while this is a comment on consumerism using religious imagery (albeit hokey and been done before).
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:21 am to Cosmo
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Is McDonalds OK with this?
Kinda seems like a trademark violation.
My guess would be a lawsuit would inflame feelings and cause people to sympathize with the artist instead of allowing the statute to die off into oblivion on its own. People against capitalism would make this is their rally symbol, thus associating the McDonalds brand worldwide with the negatives of capitalism. I don't see how McDonalds wins in this situation, and by win I do not mean in court. The pissed people in the middle east will torch it for them.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:28 am to cwill
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Maplethorpe was commenting on religion while this is a comment on consumerism using religious imagery (albeit hokey and been done before).
Same question - what's interesting or remotely artistic about it? Political or religious speech can't be, per se, artistic, IMHO.
I mean, Jesus fighting Santa in South Park is far more interesting than whatever this is. What's interesting about crucifying Ronald McDonald? What does that represent?
ETA: For that matter, crazy Sinead O'Connor tearing up a picture of the Pope and saying, "Fight the real enemy!" - I get that. I don't agree with it necessarily, but that has some sort of thought behind it.
If you depicted a crucified fat person on the Golden Arches? I get that. I understand that.
This I don't get. Help me out.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 10:29 am
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:40 am to CoachChappy
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Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:43 am to CoachChappy
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Now, do one of Mohammed...
While not commonly known, I think Islam recognizes Jesus as a Prophet/Teacher but not (as the Christian Faith does..) Only begotten Son/Savior...
So it is not implausible that the stone throwing was not from "Christians"...
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:51 am to klrstix
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While not commonly known, I think Islam recognizes Jesus as a Prophet/Teacher but not (as the Christian Faith does..) Only begotten Son/Savior... So it is not implausible that the stone throwing was not from "Christians"...
That's what I was suspecting as well. That Christians are upset over the Ronald McDonald doll, Mohammedans are upset about the presence of a crucifix in Dar-Al-Islam.
That having been said, Christianity isn't a religion of pacifism. The difference between violence engaged in by Christianity and Islam is that the former is universally provoked, defensive, and not intended to spread the faith or invade new territory. Isalmic violence is unprovoked, offensive, and intended to invade new territory.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 10:53 am
Posted on 1/16/19 at 11:21 am to chity
"Arab Christians". Sounds like a cultural problem that has crept into the faith.
Christians should not turn to violence over such things.
Christians should not turn to violence over such things.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:00 pm to FooManChoo
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Christians should not turn to violence over such things.
As A Christian... I agree completely!
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:14 pm to chity
These idiots gone mess around and push these Christians to far.
It seems a lot of these people done forgot that them Christians tend to go off when they are pushed and start killing everyone..
Read your history cuz..
It seems a lot of these people done forgot that them Christians tend to go off when they are pushed and start killing everyone..
Read your history cuz..
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:56 pm to CoachChappy
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Now, do one of Mohammed, pussy.
I wouldn't count on that.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:02 pm to chity
Acting more like Muslims. Assuming the left is going to whole heartedly embrace them now
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