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re: Christians are to submit to governmental authorities, if …
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:59 pm to Diamondawg
Posted on 9/15/21 at 6:59 pm to Diamondawg
Rebellion to tyrants is obiediance to God
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:02 pm to Diamondawg
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Speed limits, right on red after a stop, can't yell "fire" in a crowded theater, can't prescribe drugs without a license, etc,. etc.
You are correct. I should have said that we are to unless it goes against our belief in God.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:24 pm to Diamondawg
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"Give to Caesar what is Caesar's - give to God what is God's. Jesus
frick Caesar. Salty1
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:34 pm to LSURep864
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Romans 13 calls us to submit to the governing authorities.
This does not mean you take an experimental shot claimed to be a vaccine, but does not fit the definition of a vaccine.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 7:56 pm to Toomer Deplorable
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Christ here was not endorsing the power of the State but delineating the difference between man’s temporal realm and God’s eternal realm. Caesar’s realm derives it’s power from manipulation and violent coercion while God’s heavenly power is based in mercy and compassion. Christ is not instructing his followers to submit to Caesar’s realm but to reject the blasphemous claims of Caesar’s coinage — that Caesar is a God among men.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:09 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Who should be considered Caesar in a free self governing society?
By the consent of the governed.
Our constitution is set that if the government sneezes wrong its in trouble. Its a garbage bin where the states agreed to dump the bitc h work. It got its power from the federal reserve where it could then bribe states with blood money.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 8:50 pm to Herooftheday
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Wives are called to submit to their husbands
There are two from Peter, read them again carefully ...Read before and after...You'll gain in wisdom after reading what the two are about .....Not what you think.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:02 pm to obdobd918
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This does not mean you take an experimental shot claimed to be a vaccine, but does not fit the definition of a vaccine.
Especially when aborted fetus tissues were used in the invention of said “so called” vaccines!!!
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:05 pm to Padme
How bout this... think for yourself.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 9:47 pm to CaptJJ
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Rebellion to tyrants is obiediance to God
quote:Acts 5:29
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
Posted on 9/15/21 at 10:32 pm to Diamondawg
"governmental authorities" ebb and flow in terms of their lawlessness and faithfulness.
Lines get crossed. At some point they abandon being an authority to be followed at all such as the hemorrhaging lawlessness which is now practiced in this country for the last 20-30 years, especially beginning with the Obama regime which crosses yet another line into evil. Not to mention their abandonment of the original founding principle...
Authority will be followed by Christians according to those lines no matter who crosses them
Lines get crossed. At some point they abandon being an authority to be followed at all such as the hemorrhaging lawlessness which is now practiced in this country for the last 20-30 years, especially beginning with the Obama regime which crosses yet another line into evil. Not to mention their abandonment of the original founding principle...
Authority will be followed by Christians according to those lines no matter who crosses them
Posted on 9/15/21 at 11:53 pm to Padme
quote:Yes, even when government isn't doing what we think is right. The only exception is where the civil magistrate orders someone to act against God's commands.
Are Christians called to submit to governmental authorities?
Posted on 9/16/21 at 4:51 am to Diamondawg
quote:Yea but what if Caesar decides that he wants all of your shite instead of just that small tax? frick all that!
Give to Caesar what is Caesar's
Posted on 9/16/21 at 6:40 am to CaptJJ
quote:hmm nice user name
Rebellion to tyrants is obiediance to God
Posted on 9/16/21 at 6:42 am to Y.A. Tittle
quote:well this certainly needs bumping
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Christ here was not endorsing the power of the State but delineating the difference between man’s temporal realm and God’s eternal realm. Caesar’s realm derives it’s power from manipulation and violent coercion while God’s heavenly power is based in mercy and compassion. Christ is not instructing his followers to submit to Caesar’s realm but to reject the blasphemous claims of Caesar’s coinage — that Caesar is a God among men.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 6:44 am to Padme
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Are Christians called to submit to governmental authorities?
No...next question
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So yes we are to submit to the government
No we're not
Posted on 9/16/21 at 8:29 am to Wtodd
quote:Paul seems to be clear in Romans that we are to submit to the civil magistrate, and he was writing during the rule of a pagan emperor.
No we're not
It’s an application of the 5th commandment: submission to authority.
Posted on 9/16/21 at 8:33 am to FooManChoo
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Paul seems to be clear in Romans that we are to submit to the civil magistrate,
I'll take what Jesus said "render unto Caesar what is Caesar's".
Should we respect authority/Government? Sure but they have to earn it.
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