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re: China announces 34% retaliatory tariff on all US imports. Dow down 1000 on the news.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:57 am to imjustafatkid
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:57 am to imjustafatkid
quote:Nothing weird about it. The idea that our wages would be higher with less effecient production of goods is silly. If that were true,we should be eliminating automation, using paint brushes instead of sprayers, banning nail guns and using hammers, banning trackhoes and excavators, etc.
It's weird that you view these statements as mutually exclusive.
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Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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How?
Unions.
We may not get that answer from them today, but it's coming.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 8:59 am to Jbird
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There are plenty of old people and retirees working grocery stores McDs etc.
Sure, but high schoolers still have opportunities for those entry level jobs.
The restaurant industry never recovered from COVID. I worked in 2 different restaurants in hike school.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:00 am to wackatimesthree
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Unions.
We may not get that answer from them today, but it's coming.
Read anc's thread which bursts a few of their bubbles from a pro-Trump X account
Prices? Will rise as part of the plan. That's a biggie they hate to admit.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:00 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Meh my grocery buddy says then hire older folks, why hire a kid with zero work ethic when you can get grampa for the same wage.
Sure, but high schoolers still have opportunities for those entry level jobs.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:00 am to wackatimesthree
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Actually, I've been predicting that rightist populists will begin to support unions
Get rid of the "rightist" and it makes perfect sense. Unions are textbook populist organizations.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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You're arguing our wages are "deflated" while being the most expensive workforce on the planet.
Yes. Both things can be true. And are.
This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 9:01 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:02 am to Flats
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Unions are textbook populist organizations.
Correct. This was always the natural progression of Trump's populism.
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Get rid of the "rightist" and it makes perfect sense.
They will just re-define what "rightist" means, as they have done since 2016, when I became a "Leftists" for being against more government intervention, government-based redistribution, unions, etc.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:02 am to imjustafatkid
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Yes. Both things can be true. And are.
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And you think we can "bring the jobs back" within that paradigm? Where you think our already most expensive workforce should be paid more? How?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:04 am to SlowFlowPro
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Prices? Will rise as part of the plan. That's a biggie they hate to admit.
No, I freely admit this. The goal is for wages to also rise so the up.
You know, in opposition to the previous system where prices rise and wages don't keep up.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:08 am to imjustafatkid
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The goal is for wages to also rise so the up.
That's the government-forced redistribution aspect of it.
Take from the productive to give to the unproductive.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:08 am to TigerFanatic99
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Other than bourbon, what exactly does China import from the US?
Rice and grain. Shitloads of it too.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:09 am to SlowFlowPro
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That's the government-forced redistribution aspect of it.
Take from the productive to give to the unproductive.
This is a strange defense of Chinese slave labor.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:10 am to imjustafatkid
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This is a strange defense of Chinese slave labor.
Define slave labor.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:10 am to imjustafatkid
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This is a strange defense of Chinese slave labor.
Note: we have a pivot to emotional arguments
I'll let you try a response based in fact and logic before I declare that a white flag.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:12 am to TigersHuskers
Tariffs are so bad - Its so obvious, that's why so many countries have tariffs on us (Guess they're all wrong). Make it make sense. 
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:13 am to Tigerdad2001
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Who has the number one economy in the world?
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at's why so many countries have tariffs on us (Guess they're all wrong).
Who has the number one economy in the world?
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:13 am to TigersHuskers
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Found another libtard cuck
Some of you people are just fricking broken.
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:14 am to imjustafatkid
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This is a strange defense of Chinese slave labor.
while you argue we should not pay them at all, because US workers are underpaid. This post was edited on 4/4/25 at 9:15 am
Posted on 4/4/25 at 9:15 am to Flats
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Unions are textbook populist organizations.
Absolutely.
It's coming, and soon, and probably as a result of all of this tariff stuff.
Once they (finally) realize that tariffs are not enough to create an unskilled middle class in 'Muh 'Merca that can graduate high school and work in a factory for 40 years and retire in a five bedroom house with two new cars in the driveway, they will turn to unions to try to make that happen.
'Cause, you know. Corporate greed and such.
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