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re: Chicago Judge orders release of 600+ illegal immigrants

Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:53 pm to
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Now that's a very interesting 16 pages.

Hope it gets the smackdown... three years have certainly come and gone.


Yeah, it was pretty interesting. This is going to be a real mess as I think there are 3,000 people that could be affected.

As for the expiration, the decree was extended last month. It now ends in February.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:55 pm to
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As for the expiration, the decree was extended last month. It now ends in February.


What say you to Dafif's response regarding this?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7805 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:56 pm to
Who agreed to extend the degree ? Did the court do it unilaterally?
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
410 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:04 pm to
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Who agreed to extend the degree ? Did the court do it unilaterally?


It was extended after ICE repeatedly violated it. Here is the order and opinon
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
12343 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:13 pm to
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It was extended after ICE repeatedly violated it. Here is the order and opinon


Did you bother to look over that? It is claptrap. I'm only on page FIVE and I can tell you it is ridiculous.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111878 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:14 pm to
You know what? frick that judge anyway.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
111878 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:17 pm to
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If you have to do it, dump them all out in front of the judges house and tell them this where to get to stay


Actually, ICE should set up a perimeter fence around the judge's entire neighborhood and then dump them all in there.

Why should he AND his neighbors be deprived of the enrichment he demands on the rest of society?
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
410 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:21 pm to
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I'm guessing the judge did not read this


I am guessing the Judge knows that the TRO issued by SCOTUS in September only applies to the Central District of California. He likely also knows that the extension of the Castañon Nava consent decree only applies in Illinois and five neighboring states.

Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
1925 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:23 pm to
Not gonna do it. *Bush Sr voice*
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
82733 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:30 pm to
Well isn't that convenient Alter tool?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7805 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:34 pm to
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It was extended after ICE repeatedly violated it.


2 very important things

First the court extended it (after SCOTUS)

Second - one of the basis was for a motion filed in September after SCOTUS ruling

It is very likely the judge will be found wrong in this
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7805 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:37 pm to
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r only applies to the Central District of California.


Is it your professional opinion that when scotus issues an ORDER the language is specifically limited to the jurisdiction where it came from???

That's your position on what Justice Roberts - you know - the Chief Justice - wrote and the language that was used - that is the hill for you?

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Judge knows that the TRO issued by SCOTUS in September


Can you actually explain to us - in the history of SCOTUS- when has that court actually issues a TRO? Because I've never seen it
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 9:40 pm
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18516 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:41 pm to
Release them immediately to their home countries
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
410 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:42 pm to
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Is it your professional opinion that when scotus issues an ORDER the language is specifically limited to the jurisdiction where it came from???

In September SCOTUS granted the Trump administration’s emergency request to lift a TRO for a specific case. The case that they lifted the TRO for is still ongoing.

quote:

Can you actually explain to us - in the history of SCOTUS- when has that court actually issues a TRO? Because I've never seen it


Sorry, I was writing fast and meant to say "lifted the TRO", which is what happened.

This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 9:48 pm
Posted by Armymann50
Playing with my
Member since Sep 2011
21734 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:46 pm to
Release them in mexico
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
7805 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:49 pm to
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fast and meant to say "lifted the TRO"


With very very specific language as to what this federal agency is allowed to do to enforce our laws - pretty much anything to confirm you are here legally.

And - to nobody surprise - Everyone in there is a criminal
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43726 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:52 pm to
I’m not a lawyer so can you explain to me how a consent decree from 2018 which terminates after 3 years is still valid? After all 2025 is 4 years after the termination date of the decree.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26230 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:53 pm to
Good, release them back into their own country.
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
410 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:54 pm to
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With very very specific language as to what this federal agency is allowed to do to enforce our laws - pretty much anything to confirm you are here legally.


The ruling itself was not a final, nationwide precedent but there is a high likelihood that it will be. SCOTUS granting a stay indicates they think the administration may win.
Posted by Bama Mountain
Member since Oct 2025
410 posts
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:56 pm to
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’m not a lawyer so can you explain to me how a consent decree from 2018 which terminates after 3 years is still valid? After all 2025 is 4 years after the termination date of the decree.


The events were in 2018 but the decree is from 2022. It was extended last month until February. The ACLU wanted it extended 3 more years but the judge gave them 4 months.

Scroll up, I posted the opinion earlier.
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