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re: Charles Koch in the WSJ

Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:31 am to
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
11026 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:31 am to
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I don't dislike Koch's methods any more then George Soros', but we need to get money out of politics as much as we can
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David and Charles Koch, the billionaire brothers who often are cited for their conservative influence, had $308 million tied up in their foundation and institute in 2011.
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Mr. Soros‘ Open Society Foundations have annual assets of more than $3.5 billion, a pool from which he can dole out grants to pet projects, according to 2011 tax returns, the most recent on file for his charitable organizations.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 11:32 am
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:45 am to
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Instead of fostering a system that enables people to help themselves, America is now saddled with a system that destroys value, raises costs, hinders innovation and relegates millions of citizens to a life of poverty, dependency and hopelessness. This is what happens when elected officials believe that people's lives are better run by politicians and regulators than by the people themselves. Those in power fail to see that more government means less liberty, and liberty is the essence of what it means to be American. Love of liberty is the American ideal.


Dayum! Didn't realize anybody thought this way anymore. Evil capitalist trying to force freedom down errbody's throats. This fool has no clue about economic justice, social justice, gender justice, speech justice, reproductive justice, or religious justice. This running dog bourgeoisie will soon be ground under the heels of the proletariat.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112683 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 11:48 am to
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at someone's political OPINION being "right" and someone else's "wrong"


So, Thomas Jefferson's political philosophy being 'right' and those of Mao, Hitler, Castro and Kim Jong Un being 'wrong' would be laughable to you?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84934 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 4:27 pm to
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It is the solution.


Well I just don't agree that it's the only solution.

I'd like to stop voting Democrat in every POTUS election but when the Supreme Court decides that open bribery is the answer in an ideologically split 5-4 decision I feel I have no choice but to continue to support them in the hopes they might change the balance to 5-4 the other way and we can get our Republic back.
This post was edited on 4/3/14 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112683 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 4:39 pm to
Ah, online Draco...can't wait for you to answer my question.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84934 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 5:11 pm to
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So, Thomas Jefferson's political philosophy being 'right' and those of Mao, Hitler, Castro and Kim Jong Un being 'wrong' would be laughable to you?


I have an opinion on their views, I certainly know who I would side with here (in before lame arse joke about me siding with Mao), but at the end of the day it's all just our subjective opinions based on our experiences.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57453 posts
Posted on 4/3/14 at 9:04 pm to
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when the Supreme Court decides that open bribery is the answer
Please link to the portion of the opinion that makes this assertion. I'd really, really, like to read that.
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