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re: CDC Quietly Changes It’s Official Definition of “Vaccine” and “Vaccination.”
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:24 am to Korkstand
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:24 am to Korkstand
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This request suggests that you are conflating the control group infection risk during the study period with absolute risk for purposes of NNV.
This suggest that you believe the study data is not representative of the vaccines’ actual efficacy. Can you confirm?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:25 am to Korkstand
Korkstand
Congrats for dragging the thread of topic by lecturing everyone on the definition of a 'vaccine'; however, The cdc has used the definition of producing immunity for 30 years....they did not come out and say, hey folks, we defined it incorrectly, we are changing it....they simply made a change during a time when the vax they are pushing has now been proven NOT to produce immunity...'....those are the only facts.
Congrats for dragging the thread of topic by lecturing everyone on the definition of a 'vaccine'; however, The cdc has used the definition of producing immunity for 30 years....they did not come out and say, hey folks, we defined it incorrectly, we are changing it....they simply made a change during a time when the vax they are pushing has now been proven NOT to produce immunity...'....those are the only facts.
This post was edited on 9/9/21 at 10:27 am
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:26 am to dgnx6
quote:Those are most common, yes, but far from "pretty much all". We have long used other types of vaccines in the standard immunization schedule.
But the majority of vaccines we have, pretty much all of the non mRNA ones, are an isolated or weakened version of the virus to trigger an immune response in your cells.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:27 am to TS1926
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Congrats for dragging the thread of topic by lecturing everyone on the definition of a 'vaccine'; however, The cdc has used the definition of producing immunity for 30 years....they did not come out and say, hey folks, we defined it incorrectly, we are changing it....they simply made a change during a time when the vax they are pushing has now been proven NOT to produce immunity...'....those are the only facts.
This. The problem is not the definition of vaccine but rather the definition of immunity.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:27 am to Roger Klarvin
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on a societal level I think its largely just driven by mass hysteria and illogical, largely emotional reflex.
You mean those in power?
As stated, this isn’t about public health imho.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:30 am to Roger Klarvin
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Generally speaking, I try not to attribute malice to situations where gross incompetence will suffice as an explanation.
Obviously there are some individuals who like attention/power, but on a societal level I think its largely just driven by mass hysteria and illogical, largely emotional reflex.
This is a great time to ask again why the cdc has misdefined the term immunity for so long?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:31 am to Roger Klarvin
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Generally speaking, I try not to attribute malice to situations where gross incompetence will suffice as an explanation.
Sorry, then that makes you a simpleton and or a liar.
If you can look at the world around you and pass off what is going on as mere "incompetence", then you are really, really, really not as smart or well-informed as you incessantly bleat on about.
Of course, using the word "suffice" is sort of a tell.
If you are OK with an answer that is simply "sufficient" regarding a world-changing event, then that tells us you are either complicit or complacent.
Either way, for us dumb ole hill folk who rely on common-sense, none of this passes the smell test ESPECIALLY when so many "experts" along with those in charge have been acting like Bond villains intent on world domination.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:32 am to TS1926
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.they simply made a change during a time when the vax they are pushing has now been proven NOT to produce immunity..
Yep....changes made in the dead of night are usually done that way for a reason.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:32 am to the808bass
quote:It is not required to know absolute risk in order to determine relative risk reduction or efficacy.
This suggest that you believe the study data is not representative of the vaccines’ actual efficacy. Can you confirm?
I ask again, rephrased... do you think the incidence rate in the control group during the study period is equivalent to absolute risk? Your entire NNV sideshow hinges on this error.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:32 am to Korkstand
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I assure you that a page titled "Immunization: The Basics" has no impact on the legal system.
It has EVERYTHING to do with what qualifies as a "vaccine" you f*cking MORON.
Only if it is a "vaccine" does it get legal immunity. As a "vaccine," anyone who suffers ANY side effects -- short term or LONG TERM) is unable to sue the manufacturers. Instead, they are placed in a government pool that doesn't cover sh!t.
So, Mr. World Renowned Virologist -- TELL US ALL, what are the long-term side effects of these gene therapy drugs? I'll give you a hint -- YOU DON'T HAVE THE FIRST F*CKING CLUE. How do I know that? BECAUSE NO ONE DOES BECAUSE THESE NONVACCINE DRUGS HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE PROPER PROTOCOLS AND TESTING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE LONG-TERM SIDE EFFECTS ARE.
You clueless f*cking MORON.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:34 am to TS1926
quote:So? Can't really blame them that a lot of people don't understand how immunity works.
Congrats for dragging the thread of topic by lecturing everyone on the definition of a 'vaccine'; however, The cdc has used the definition of producing immunity for 30 years
Hey, do you think we need to rename our immune system?
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:34 am to MMauler
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BECAUSE NO ONE DOES BECAUSE THESE NONVACCINE DRUGS HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE PROPER PROTOCOLS AND TESTING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE LONG-TERM SIDE EFFECTS ARE.
Well, there's that and the fact we know the bad guys have been manipulating and censoring data from the word "go".
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:35 am to Korkstand
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So? Can't really blame them that a lot of people don't understand how immunity works.
Know how we know you're losing: You're caught in a loop.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:35 am to Korkstand
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Hey, do you think we need to rename our immune system?
Still trying to derail I see.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:36 am to Korkstand
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It is not required to know absolute risk in order to determine relative risk reduction or efficacy.
Sigh. You absolute fricking idiot. Quit talking about things you don’t understand.
Relative risk reduction is directly figured from absolute risk reduction. You fricking absolute idiot.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:36 am to Robin Masters
quote:Not so much the definition of immunity, but the fact that people don't understand how immunity works in a population.
The problem is not the definition of vaccine but rather the definition of immunity.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:37 am to Korkstand
Shut the frick up, idiot.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:37 am to MMauler
quote:Quite the melt.
It has EVERYTHING to do with what qualifies as a "vaccine" you f*cking MORON.
Only if it is a "vaccine" does it get legal immunity. As a "vaccine," anyone who suffers ANY side effects -- short term or LONG TERM) is unable to sue the manufacturers. Instead, they are placed in a government pool that doesn't cover sh!t.
So, Mr. World Renowned Virologist -- TELL US ALL, what are the long-term side effects of these gene therapy drugs? I'll give you a hint -- YOU DON'T HAVE THE FIRST F*CKING CLUE. How do I know that? BECAUSE NO ONE DOES BECAUSE THESE NONVACCINE DRUGS HAVEN'T GONE THROUGH THE PROPER PROTOCOLS AND TESTING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE LONG-TERM SIDE EFFECTS ARE.
You clueless f*cking MORON.
I'll say it again, a webpage titled "Immunization: The Basics" plays no role in our legal system.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:39 am to Korkstand
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so much the definition of immunity, but the fact that people don't understand how immunity works in a population.
According to you, their definition is incorrect. “You can be exposed without becoming infected”. According to you is a misunderstanding of immunity because it is not true 100% of the time and a person despite having immunity can become infected.
Posted on 9/9/21 at 10:39 am to oogabooga68
quote:Know how I know you're an idiot? You think a debate can be "won" by dragging someone into a loop and refusing to exit.
Know how we know you're losing: You're caught in a loop.
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