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re: CDC is removing the original test for fda authorization…am I reading that right?

Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:29 am to
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52447 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:29 am to

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So this is what happened to the flu? You would get tested and if you had the actual flu you were covid positive according to the test?


Where did you get ANY of that from that link?
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3830 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 12:44 am to
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Two sickest I had were my oldest daughter that was in college and mandated to where a mask in class and during participation in athletic activities by NCAA. She also is a cheer/gymnastics instructor and had to have n95 while in gym. She took the HCQ, zinc, zpack combo. Didn't listen to me and start right away. She did fine though. Just felt like shite for two weeks. Youngest daughter (the sickly one)lives with us and had a 4 month old at the time. No symptoms ever in either. Both have the antibodies. No masks.


Almost like the body actually needs oxygen. SMH
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
31206 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:07 am to
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Where did you get ANY of that from that link?

Its not in that link, but it was exposed by researchers in Germany
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While Drosten confirmed that “several viral genome sequences had been released”, in the case of 2019-nCoV, however, “virus isolates or samples from infected patients were not available

The recommendations of the Drosten study pertaining to the use of the RT-PCR test applied to 2019-nCoV were then transmitted to the WHO. They were subsequently endorsed by the Director General of the WHO, Tedros Adhanom. The identity of the virus was not required.

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The results of the PCR Test applied to SARS-2 are blatantly flawed. Drosten recommended the use of a 45 amplification threshold cycle (Ct), which was endorsed by the WHO in January 2020.

So the detection panel isnt based on actual COVID genetic material, and running it at 45 cycles produces extreme numbers from asymptomatic patients

Also, know that Drosten was the one who declared the virus to be of natural origins from a bat, and most similar to a cattle virus
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9872 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:11 am to
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Hundreds of millions of people were tested for Covid 19 using tests that could not differentiate between Covid and any of the 100+ strains of influenza.

This is a fact.


Can I get a link to this? I'm gonna spread it far and wide.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29002 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:20 am to
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Can I get a link to this? I'm gonna spread it far and wide.
The only links will be to dumbasses misinterpreting what they've read.

They think that since some tests are able to detect both covid and flu and of course also differentiate between the two, that means the older tests would just detect flu and think it's covid. This is not the case. They didn't differentiate covid and flu because they didn't detect flu at all. That's what flu tests are for.


Posted by Papplesbeast
St. Louis
Member since Dec 2014
876 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:41 am to
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And then last week the cdc claimed the number of death’s caused by the vaccine, the number shown on THEIR website, 12,313 - a number they confirm by medical reports and autopsy reports - was wrong?! They made this claim right after Tucker made that number known. 500,000 injured by the vaccine (can’t walk, tremors, memory loss blood clots etc) and 12,313 dead from the vaccine.

That's people who died after getting vaccinated, not people who were killed by the vaccine.

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The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) requires health care providers to report any serious adverse event (including death) that happens after a COVID-19 vaccination – whether or not the provider thinks there is any link. The CDC says, "Health care providers are required to report to VAERS the following adverse events after COVID-19 vaccination…regardless if the reporter thinks the vaccine caused the AE." AE stands for adverse event and includes death.

That means that if a vaccinated person drowns, gets in a car crash or is struck by lightning, their death must be reported to VAERS as an adverse event. Since we've vaccinated over 140 million people in the United States, many deaths will occur coincidentally after vaccination.


LINK
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
27769 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:50 am to
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
20860 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:17 am to
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That's people who died after getting vaccinated, not people who were killed by the vaccine.

Funny how they count vaccine deaths differently than they do Covid deaths.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
19350 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 5:31 am to
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Results are for the identification of SARS-CoV-2 RNA. SARS-CoV-2 RNA is generally detectable in upper and lower respiratory specimens during infection. Positive results are indicative of active infection with SARS-CoV-2 but do not rule out bacterial infection or co-infection with other viruses. The agent detected may not be the definite cause of disease. Laboratories within the United States and its territories are required to report all results to the appropriate public health authorities


fda.gov
Posted by Archer
Murica
Member since Jan 2021
474 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:25 am to
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CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses.


This is the part I believe OP is referring too.
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
806 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:31 am to
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Positive results are indicative of active infection with SARS-CoV-2 


Say it louder for those in the back. Positive results means that the DNA signature unique for SARS-CoV-2 were found. But the single agent test cannot rule out whether you also have the flu, or a secondary bacterial infection, or anything else. It tests for one thing and one thing only.

Multiplex tests not only tell you yes / no for COVID, but also gives you yes/no for other potential pathogens.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
15388 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:43 am to
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We had a lot positive for both. Many places didn't bother swabbing for flu. If it were positive, you weren't supposed to check for COVID. We did. The majority that popped Flu positive were also COVID positive. Got better with Tamiflu. Not all positive flus were COVID positive, but more than half.




I found this to be true in early ‘20. Fall of ‘19 through about March or April was one of the worst flu seasons I’ve seen.
From Fall of ‘20 on, I have gotten very few positive influenza tests, even with a negative COVID. I got in a habit when testing was scarce of running a respiratory PCR panel on certain hospitalized adults- generally if I found something on that, I wouldn’t send off the 4-6d turnaround test which we had an allotment of something like 5 a week. I found a fair number of other viruses.

I wish there were a cheap multi-pathogen panel that was POC that included COVID. It would save me a lot of time.


Never in my wildest dreams did I think I’d ever ask for a test to differentiate rhinovirus and parainfluenza in the office for adults.
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