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Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:03 pm to Louisianalabguy
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The clergy has a responsibility once informed to require anyone living in open mortal sin repent.
Yes.
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This means separating from the sinful practice.
That's not what repentance means. How many people repeat a repented sin at some point? Of course the intention is to move away from sin, but stones and glass houses.
Unless you are a perfect person who has never repeated a sin? That is impressive.
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Before you are accepted into the body of Christ, the Church has a great responsibility to insure you are where you need to be.
Teach, talk about it, not give on what you are agreeing to, put it into the process, but that's about as far as you can go.
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After that, participation in sacraments are more on the conscious of the individual.
Between them and God.
I mean, I am effectively saying this.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:19 pm to Freauxzen
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All of this is fair. But you'd be singling someone out when there are many, many people actively participating in the Church and committing sin openly, see the examples above. Plenty of Catholics support and talk publicly about contraceptives, you'd also have to ban them.
Don’t you think if the Catholic Church started hammering down on this sinful behavior people would take their faith more seriously and maybe stop their behavior?
I guess they could also possibly leave the church but if that’s so they should be there in the first place.
The church should never have to change itself to accommodate the modern culture.
I think a whole lot of people would gladly welcome more traditional values in the church and a lot of them are young people just coming into the church or returning.
People who are seeking true communion with Christ are hungry for something real and not something that ebbs and flows with social sentiment.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:21 pm to Louisianalabguy
I agree with this but I’m not sure why the quote is attributed to me. I didn’t post that.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:31 pm to hawgfaninc
At least one bishop in the American Church has the guts to speak his mind on this issue:
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:35 pm to hawgfaninc
You can’t keep a person from joining the church because he is gay. He shouldn’t take communion but the decision to do so is entirely up to him. The church is open to anyone. That doesn’t mean that we condone the freaky business.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:39 pm to LsuNav
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He shouldn’t take communion but the decision to do so is entirely up to him.
The priest does have the authority to refuse a person known to be in a state of mortal sin the Blessed Sacrament. By giving them both the Eucharist knowing they are in a homosexual relationship, the priest himself has entered into a state of mortal sin.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:42 pm to Snipe
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He 100% can not while he is actively in a homosexual relationship.
That's a fact and if a priest knowingly gives reconciliation to someone they know to be actively on sin they themselves are at risk.
What part of provided he’s properly penitent did you not understand?
If the person is no longer in a homosexual relationship, repents his sin and has no intention of lapsing back into it, he’s absolutely able to confess his sin.
Homosexuality is not considered a sin in The Church. Acting upon it is.
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:44 pm to hawgfaninc
Posted on 11/12/25 at 5:45 pm to Snipe
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Don’t you think if the Catholic Church started hammering down on this sinful behavior people would take their faith more seriously and maybe stop their behavior?
I guess they could also possibly leave the church but if that’s so they should be there in the first place.
No. Human desires are strong, and we're pretty much raised to believe that gratification, pleasure and comfort are the top things we should strive for, and terrestrially speaking, there's little that can compete with sex and "love/happiness." To go against those things is to against the cultural god of the self - and for everyone, Catholic or not, that's hard. I don't think most Catholics actually understand the concept of suffering and why it's important. It's why they actually don't mind things like contraception.
If we did something about this you'd be no better than the Puritans, and we don't want to be Puritans, that much I know.
And I don't argue whether or not that's a good thing, or that we should actively choose either path, etc. I'm just not the one tasked with making that decision. Could a dwindled down Church be stronger and broader in a century after something like this? Of course it could be.
What I would like to believe is that whatever the path the Catholic Church decides on - it's the right path. I have to trust the wisdom of the church on that. If the leadership deems this to be a problem and goes after it, and takes on the lost cultural capital, then that's the choice. It's a defendable choice, but there will be a reaction. (What I mean is actually policing all sin in its congregation, not this one guy.)
I'll say - I'm going to trust the Wisdom of the Church. For whatever reason, we still haven't defrocked Martin, and as much as I want that to happen, for whatever reason our Bishops and popes are ignoring him. Man, I hope that comes with prayer - that dude is evil. I'll say it.
I'll repeat, this is more of a clergy problem, and less of a "this guy needs to be barred from the church" problem.
I just can't sit here and think that the Church should police people. Or that I can stand here and talk down to this guy about joining the Church when probably 60-70% of Catholic spouses engage in mortal sin routinely, happily and openly.
We are human, and so is that guy. And the church has the unenviable position of trying to make sense of it all.
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The church should never have to change itself to accommodate the modern culture.
I think a whole lot of people would gladly welcome more traditional values in the church and a lot of them are young people just coming into the church or returning.
I'd agree and celebrate that. But if the Church doesn't get more "traditional," then it's still the Catholic Church. At least as long as it holds to its core values. (And policing sin actively is not a core value, just FYI. Again, you actually have to be in a state of grace to marry - so let's make some changes there too.)
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People who are seeking true communion with Christ are hungry for something real and not something that ebbs and flows with social sentiment.
I see no barrier for myself getting that, and seeking, while also welcoming this guy in the Church. Honestly. I can head to TLM, I can go to Adoration and Confession. I can find a Catholic community that takes a different stance, with Clergy who actually pay attention, and trust the Church to sort this out.
And if sorting this out means doing nothing, and everyone who could have responsibility over this has prayed about it, then it is what it is - and I'll trust God and the Church. I will say, that guy, wanting in the church, is not doing anything wrong, unfortunately. Not being educated, not having a real conversation, not really understanding what he is agreeing to - well that's actually most Catholics as well. We just made a big social media story about it.
The clergy: Different story.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 6:27 pm to Meauxjeaux
quote:if the bible is to be trusted, none
Wait till you find out how many openly gay people join heaven.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:02 pm to Jimmie the Geek
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I didn't want to attend my ACTs retreat either. It is truly a game changer. I liked it so much, I volunteered for the next one. I strongly recommend you attend if given a chance and you will never repeat what you said here. Guaranteed.
Too bad I’ll never find out. I’ll never be a kumbaya kind of person. Only one in 3 generations of my family to never attend the silent retreat in Grand Couteau either.
The retreats I was forced to attend in high school for confirmation and getting married told me everything I need to know about how me and retreats get along.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:19 pm to GRTiger
quote:In most Presbyterian denominations, yes. Church membership vows typically involve repentance for sin. Living in active and unrepentant sexual sin is not evidence of being a believer in Jesus and therefore would prevent someone from being able to join in membership with most reformed and Presbyterian churches.
Are gays barred from declaring their faith in the Presbyterian church?
Posted on 11/14/25 at 8:43 am to barry
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There are a lot of openly gay people in the catholic church.
One major rule I know is that you cannot have a Jew or Muslim as a Godparent. Straight up negatory.
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