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re: Carney's Team Humiliated In D.C. — Not A Single Meeting Secured
Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:23 pm to Placekicker
Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:23 pm to Placekicker
This is what happens when you cry out that you "will make Americans suffer"
Suck it fricktard floppy head.
Suck it fricktard floppy head.
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Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:24 pm to Narax
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Yes, and If I can show it happening then you have to admit you are wrong.
Yes to me calling it an absolutely retarded premise? What?
Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:26 pm to crazy4lsu
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Yes to me calling it an absolutely retarded premise? What?
Think that through and fix your language to be clearer.
What are you agreeing to?
Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:37 pm to Narax
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Think that through and fix your language to be clearer
This is what you were affirming.
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Running away from what? That I’m calling it an absolutely retarded premise? Yes, and If I can show it happening then you have to admit you are wrong.
You affirmed that question I posed to you rhetorically, which lead to another nonsensical situation.
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What are you agreeing to?
What do you want? That you didn’t say that China could take over Vancouver in 3 days? Hopefully you realize the premise is stupid, because you could literally exchange ‘Canada’ in that scenario for any other country in the world and have it be true. Regardless, it isn’t meaningful to the discussion because I am arguing that because of Canada’s peculiar historical and geopolitical situation, they do not have the same external threats that other countries do. In your asinine scenario, it would be easier to ask what countries would not immediately ‘roll over.’ It isn’t relevant even in the intense fictions that you’ve developed.
Put it another way. Let us say that Canada had no historical relationship with the US and the US was still an ascendant military power. The Canadians would benefit from the US security umbrella precisely because parts of the US security umbrella extend beyond Canada’s boundaries. In this situation, where would the Canadians see a possible threat? Again, there is a historical answer that is the correct one.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:41 pm to Harry Boutte
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Why do we hate Canada?
I don’t hate Canada. I’m starting to get a warm fuzzy for Alberta and Saskatoon. Maybe Manitoba too.
But I dislike Ontario and Quebec.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 7:49 pm to Harry Boutte
We only want to see you suffer ....Canadians are meh and not worth waisting hate over.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:03 pm to crazy4lsu
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In your asinine scenario, it would be easier to ask what countries would not immediately ‘roll over.’ It isn’t relevant even in the intense fictions that you’ve developed.
Yes, a scenario without the USA, there is no such thing as safe geography. Especially for countries that control far more land and minerals than people and troops.
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Hmmm...
It's almost as if much of the world should be grateful for the long and historic role the US has played in defending freedom.
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It isn’t relevant even in the intense fictions that you’ve developed.
No less fictitious than yours.
I haven't once claimed to be correct, only theorizing possibles,
You have claimed to be correct, which is sad.
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Put it another way. Let us say that Canada had no historical relationship with the US and the US was still an ascendant military power. The Canadians would benefit from the US security umbrella precisely because parts of the US security umbrella extend beyond Canada’s boundaries. In this situation, where would the Canadians see a possible threat? Again, there is a historical answer that is the correct one.
Of course, we would smoke them in a heartbeat.
Which is always a possibility when you get unfriendly with your big neighbor.
Ask Ukraine.
And yes, there are scenarios where China could be attacking Vancouver with their carrier strike force that quickly.
I suspect you know that now.
The world is a much smaller place than it was, China has tremendous reach now.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:13 pm to Narax
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Yes, a scenario without the USA, there is no such thing as safe geography
Genuinely idiotic but okay.
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It's almost as if much of the world should be grateful for the long and historic role the US has played in defending freedom
You don’t seem to realize the inverse of this, which I guess is above your pay grade.
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Which is always a possibility when you get unfriendly with your big neighbor.
You don’t seem to get what I mean. That Canada benefits from something that is in US interest regardless isn’t meaningful to Canadian-American relations. What is more meaningful is action, and in that respect, Canada and the UK have been excellent partners.
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Which is always a possibility when you get unfriendly with your big neighbor. Ask Ukraine.
You realize that is a terrible example, right? The Russians have performed terribly. It is a joke they were once regarded as a near peer to the US. You are really bad at making analogies man.
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And yes, there are scenarios where China could be attacking Vancouver with their carrier strike force that quickly.
lol, not any that anyone takes seriously dude. But maybe they are going to launch a coup in Vancouver! You fricking idiot. Dear god that was stupid.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:13 pm to crazy4lsu
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I am skeptical of China's force projection abilities. Let us see them actually dominate the South Pacific and win that theater before we imagine them rampaging along the North American coast
How skeptical are you when it comes to having aircraft carriers? They pretty much dominate in the south China Sea when we aren't present and we cant be everywhere all the time.
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We have far more experience than the Chinese, especially in terms of logistics. We've participated in several different types of operations and gained a lot of good experience from it. Moreover, we've shown the ability to project force in a way the Chinese have yet to.
Chinese learned by watching us and stealing info. They drill as much if not more than us currently.
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The Central and Eastern Pacific regions present entirely different challenges than the Southwestern Pacific, where the US is preparing for a possible clash with the Chinese.
Agreed but we are talking about China's ability to invade Canada.
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Like sleeper cells or something? I am skeptical of that actually working without direct military intervention from the parent force. Unless the point is just to cause chaos.
Chaos is what they want, they don't care about taking Canada, they just want them neutered so they can proceed south.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:20 pm to volnavy
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How skeptical are you when it comes to having aircraft carriers? They pretty much dominate in the south China Sea when we aren't present and we cant be everywhere all the time.
I mean, aren’t they expected to have the ability to project power to regions that are extremely close to them?
The ramping up of competition between India, China and Pakistan over control of the Indian Ocean is going to be a major flashpoint. If they can impose their will there, the SCS and the South Pacific, I would obviously regard them differently.
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Chinese learned by watching us and stealing info. They drill as much if not more than us currently.
I’m not suggesting they are incompetent, I am suggesting that they are built to deal with near neighbor threats. I don’t think they have any real meaningful expeditionary capabilities at the moment.
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Chaos is what they want, they don't care about taking Canada, they just want them neutered so they can proceed south.
Yeah if the goal is a potential American invasion, they will definitely lose.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:36 pm to crazy4lsu
I mean... where cant you project power with a carrier fleet. Yes, they are mostly focused on their immediate neighborhood, but they could bring that to Canada if they wanted, barring USA isn't in the mix, and that would be almost overkill with Canada's defense ability.
Not the same as current modern warfare models. Expeditionary units don't have to be delivered by amphibs anymore. That ghost fleet can drop enough manpower and equipment to frick over Europe, let alone canada.
Would they? I would hope so, but a million man armed conscripts could definitely frick us over and they can just keep flooding them in ala korea
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I’m not suggesting they are incompetent, I am suggesting that they are built to deal with near neighbor threats. I don’t think they have any real meaningful expeditionary capabilities at the moment.
Not the same as current modern warfare models. Expeditionary units don't have to be delivered by amphibs anymore. That ghost fleet can drop enough manpower and equipment to frick over Europe, let alone canada.
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Yeah if the goal is a potential American invasion, they will definitely lose.
Would they? I would hope so, but a million man armed conscripts could definitely frick us over and they can just keep flooding them in ala korea
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:40 pm to volnavy
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I mean... where cant you project power with a carrier fleet. Yes, they are mostly focused on their immediate neighborhood, but they could bring that to Canada if they wanted, barring USA isn't in the mix, and that would be almost overkill with Canada's defense ability
Sure, but it isn't likely they are going to target Canada for any meaningful reason, as they have immediate geopolitical concerns around China itself.
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Would they? I would hope so, but a million man armed conscripts could definitely frick us over and they can just keep flooding them in ala korea
Yeah they would definitely lose. And I don't think they are trending in that direction currently.
Are you in the Navy?
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:41 pm to crazy4lsu
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lol, not any that anyone takes seriously dude. But maybe they are going to launch a coup in Vancouver! You fricking idiot. Dear god that was stupid.
You know you were wrong. It took a while and you wont admit it but you are now walking back some of the earlier claims.
Look, be as angry as you want, but I think we've established that you fixated on unlikely things and claimed to be 100% correct.
That's the problem with some people.
They believe they understand everything.
Canada needs a friendly USA.
Elbows up dude.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:47 pm to Narax
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You know you were wrong. It took a while and you wont admit it but you are now walking back some of the earlier claims.
What claims have I walked back?
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Look, be as angry as you want, but I think we've established that you fixated on unlikely things and claimed to be 100% correct
Nah
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That's the problem with some people.
They believe they understand everything.
As opposed to you, who definitely doesn't understand anything. See you at the coup in Vancouver little man.
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Canada needs a friendly USA.
You realize we are still on friendly terms, right? Nothing has fundamentally changed between the US and Canada other than some ridiculous claims made by Trump.
This post was edited on 8/4/25 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:47 pm to Narax
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:48 pm to volnavy
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I mean... where cant you project power with a carrier fleet. Yes, they are mostly focused on their immediate neighborhood, but they could bring that to Canada if they wanted, barring USA isn't in the mix, and that would be almost overkill with Canada's defense ability.
Yup that's why China wants carriers, force projection.
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Not the same as current modern warfare models. Expeditionary units don't have to be delivered by amphibs anymore. That ghost fleet can drop enough manpower and equipment to frick over Europe, let alone canada.
Interesting. Quite a fascinating idea.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:50 pm to crazy4lsu
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You realize we are still on friendly terms, right? Nothing has fundamentally changed between the US and Canada other than some ridiculous claims made by Trump.
Yes and they can't afford to do anything else.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:51 pm to crazy4lsu
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lol I’m gonna make all your dumb kids trans.
So you’re a groomer and a pedophile. Makes total sense
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:53 pm to Narax
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Yes and they can't afford to do anything else
Truly some stuff we can talk about when the Chinese stage a coup in Vancouver with a million conscripts coming across the Pacific in a ghost fleet to ultimately invade the US. Really breathtaking stuff here.
Posted on 8/4/25 at 8:53 pm to Bourre
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So you’re a groomer and a pedophile.
You would know. You groomed me in the Coates Hall bathroom circa 2004.
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