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re: Candice Owens is a straight up lunatic.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What was of the fire, since you apparently know?
Jet fuel can burn up to 1500 degrees, far more than enough to cause the steel to lose more than 50% of its yield properties.
If you have a constant source of heat, over longer periods of time. You don't cook your food instantly, the heat penetrates over time.
And again, heat rises. It's not going to be that hot to the side of a fire, which means it would take longer periods of time - if it even gets hot enough.
So why didn't the floor beams, which are horizontal, no where near as strong and would be getting the highest heat fall first?
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Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:13 pm to Lsupimp
Grifting is like leading a cult.
Eventually you start running out of normie stuff and have to dip into the secret playbook. Over time, you primarily rely on the secret playbook as your audience forgets what normie stuff is like. Ultimately, the secret playbook becomes their conceptualization of normie stuff.
That's how you end up like this
Eventually you start running out of normie stuff and have to dip into the secret playbook. Over time, you primarily rely on the secret playbook as your audience forgets what normie stuff is like. Ultimately, the secret playbook becomes their conceptualization of normie stuff.
That's how you end up like this
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:15 pm to 3down10
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So why didn't the floor beams, which are horizontal, no where near as strong and would be getting the highest heat fall first?
Your "floor beams" are steel joists made of much lighter steel to beams and columns.
The problem isnt the joists, its the column/beam connection held together with grade 8 bolts. The joists could collapse on one floor and it wouldnt be that big of a deal.
When multiple stories pancake on top of one, the entire structure will fold.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:15 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It burns hot enough for steel to lose 50% of its yield strength.
If steel loses 50% of strength what do you think happens to structures?
In time, if you have a constant source of fuel. You with your torch are applying that constant source of fuel, and you are doing it directly to the steel - not beside it.
But again, why didn't the floor beams give away first? They are weaker beams to start with, and since heat rises they would be the ones getting the most heat.
Instead, all the columns give way at the exact same time, and all the way down to the ground?
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
Maybe but that's not the vibe I'm getting-I think she had too much credibility before the Macron stuff. She was more successful before what you call the grift. I think it's a delusional/mental collapse of some kind. I bet it's manifesting in her personal life in a big way. It's not normal to state opinion as fact like this-I think she may literally be paranoid/delusional or going through some kind of personal crisis.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:19 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Your "floor beams" are steel joists made of much lighter steel to beams and columns.
The problem isnt the joists, its the column/beam connection held together with grade 8 bolts. The joists could collapse on one floor and it wouldnt be that big of a deal.
But they weren't falling down. Again, the first to weaken to collapse according to the official story is the vertical support columns.
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When multiple stories pancake on top of one, the entire structure will fold.
So you think the bowling ball would go all the way to the ground in the experiment I mentioned?
It's been done, it only goes about 1/4 of the way down.
Pancake theory is bunk.
This post was edited on 10/25/25 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:23 pm to 3down10
quote:The first catastrophic failure was.
Again, the first to weaken according to the official story is the vertical support columns.
They were either steel beams or steel tubing, prone to the same degradation by fire as any, and far more important.
When it starts to collapse, the bolted connections are stronger than the steel support structure and will pull everything above down, which will pancake the entire structure.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:24 pm to 3down10
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Pancake theory is bunk.
Youre comparing a bowling ball to tens of millions of pounds of steel all bolted together.
thats stupid.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:26 pm to GumboPot
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Would it change your opinion of her is she didn’t blame Israel?
Well yeah, that would stupid if it didn’t.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Youre comparing a bowling ball to tens of millions of pounds of steel all bolted together.
thats stupid.
It's not a wonder the ball stops, even though the glass isn't strong enough to stop the ball, each layer provides just enough resistance to slow it down and reduce the effect.
It is however a wonder how the WTC's did that while at the same time expelling large amounts of mass up to 600 feet away from the building in seemingly all directions all the way down, basically pulverizing everything.
You apparently expect me to believe the entire mass of the top was being pressed on the rest? That only happens with the ball, and it again does stop.
This post was edited on 10/25/25 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:33 pm to 3down10
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It's not a wonder the ball stops, even though the glass isn't strong enough to stop the ball, each layer provides just enough resistance to slow it down and reduce the effect.
Its in no way comparable to millions of pounds of steel all bolted together. Jesus christ...
I'm astounded youre actually trying to convince people using that idiotic analogy.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:36 pm to Snipe
I’m not sure she’s completely wrong, but I am not convinced she’s correct yet either.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its in no way comparable to millions of pounds of steel all bolted together. Jesus christ...
I'm astounded youre actually trying to convince people using that idiotic analogy.
Yeah, the glass is much weaker than the building built of millions of pounds of steel all bolted together.
But I mean the basic point is that each floor would provide a small bit of resistance before collapsing.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:45 pm to 3down10
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Yeah, the glass is much weaker than the building built of millions of pounds of steel all bolted togethe
The falling material after initial failure amounted to billions of pounds, your bowling ball is an idiotic analogy
Billions of pounds of material were contained in just the upper floors above the impact zone.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:46 pm to 3down10
Show me your math. I’ve shown you the studies that support the plane-did-it theory, now you show me the math that substantiates your claims that the fuel could not have heated it enough.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:47 pm to 3down10
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But again, why didn't the floor beams give away first? They are weaker beams to start with, and since heat rises they would be the ones getting the most heat.
Some probably did, but didnt compromise the entire structure since they support one floor, not the entire fricking building like the colums.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The falling material after initial failure amounted to billions of pounds, your bowling ball is an idiotic analogy
Billions of pounds of material were contained in just the upper floors above the impact zone.
Is it going to be trillions of pounds in your next post? And are you going to continue to ignore the large amounts of mass that were expelled? I guess none of billions of pounds was being expelled like that ALL THE WAY DOWN?
Do you understand that each floor would provide a certain amount of resistance and that would decelerate the rate of fall?
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Billions of pounds of material were contained in just the upper floors above the impact zone.
Nothing touched WTC7.
Still waiting.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:53 pm to Penrod
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Show me your math. I’ve shown you the studies that support the plane-did-it theory, now you show me the math that substantiates your claims that the fuel could not have heated it enough.
You also made daily soreadsheets of death counts during COVID, you sociopath.
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:54 pm to 3down10
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Is it going to be trillions of pounds in your next post?
Do you think the entire building was structural steel? If not, maybe review my posts and correct yourself.
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