re: Canceling all student loans would give $5 to rich Americans for every $1 given to poor

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 would all of our non-college educated voters agree to help fund those fortunate enough to go to college

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This is why we need a private state solution. Not a federal solution. The Northeast and west states have a higher percentage of collegiate graduates, so they need to create a better finance system to support it.

The southern states need to look at privatized options (like deals with businesses)

And this is why the democrat elite have such a hard on for college debt forgiveness. They don't give a damn about helping the poor, they are looking out for themselves.

Just a bunch of miserable hypocrites, as usual

I paid off my 200k in 5 years. I want a bonus if this goes through because of the discipline and sacrifice that took.

I was driving a two tone Mazda Protege making 6 figures. It was humiliating.

Before I continue, I need to qualify my personal experience with student loans. Paid off $30k of undergrad debt by the time I was 25, and currently paying off $80k of grad school debt. Cancelling my remaining student debt would feel slimey.

However; I think there are greater societal implications to this whole issue and instead of dismissing these proposals as stupid Marxist bullshite(which it largely is), we need to take a step back and approach it from a different angle.

Republicans and conservatives need to change the way they think about this stuff. There are consequences to the current system and shrieking "free market" as the solution doesn't cut it anymore. Simple zero sum thinking like IB Chinaman crying about tariffs being the worst thing in the world is a terrible policy and should be eliminated from our consciousness. Trump proved that for many people, but I think some are still stuck in an old way of thinking.

Yes, the government intervening in the student loan business it what caused this. Government always fricks things up. Now what? Is that going to change? No. Does that change the broken system? No.

As conservatives, we shouldn't believe in the dogma of anarcho-capitalism because someone calls it "the free market". We should believe in markets, and market forces, and how we use those tools to lead meaningful lives. We should also acknowledge the other kinds of tools that are available to humans that can help the human existence, and be aware that many can conflict and are often superseded. What does capitalism have to do with Church? Or community? Or building a family? Are there better tools to run a society with than just "deregulate everything"?

Capitalism is a tool, but it's often overruled by an even bigger tool; government. The current left vs right debate puts these two systems at odds with each other at all times, and they often times are, but they don't have to be. We need to reframe this discussion. Why? Because we will pay a societal cost if the student loan problem isn't solved, one that's far greater than the outstanding debt.

We are already seeing it. Increasingly broken homes, people aren't starting families soon enough, a system discourages raising children, and outsourcing at every level or existence... It's taking us down a broken path, and crippling student load debt almost cements that these issues will continue and get worse.

All these things matter, and while I agree with the sentiment of this post, and on the surface I wholeheartedly agree... I think not acknowledging where we are in the debate, how we got here, and how neither of it really addresses the greater problem, is a huge mistake and will just lead us further and further down a hole.

Democrats are always looking out for the rich . Almost everything they do is bad for middle class workers and good for the rich and/or poor.