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re: Canada’s ‘Free’ Healthcare

Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:39 am to
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:39 am to
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Mike Rowe had some actor guest on (I think the camera guy from Don't Shoot Me), and he's Canadian. He was in the US for hip replacement surgery because he had been waiting 4 years in Canada.


There's a couple of retards I work with that wouldn't believe that and would still think Canada has better healthcare system than we do...

Leftist retards who can't see more than 2ft in front of them.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28059 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 8:51 am to
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I was in Cologne Germany a few years ago, my friends neighbor (Germans) got on the healthcare subjet. Wondered why we are against socilaized Med.


I don't know about Germany but in the UK you can see the helpless mentality that it's produced. People in metro areas don't even think about self care for a small cut or something, it's straight to the NHS.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19955 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:02 am to
You obviously know nothing about a country with parallel health care systems.

You want to get your knee surgery in Canada, use you private insurance, EXACTLY what you just described and you can have it. You want the social care route you wait.

Now I ask you, if you walk into a hospital in the US, tell them you have got a bum knee, have nothing but medicare and see if you get that knee fixed in a week.

And by the way, your insurance is probably a lot less in Canada than the US, and you will not have to see 18 doctors and have 30 tests to get it fixed.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:15 am to
Elbows up Canada.







Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31364 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:25 am to
quote:

I was in Cologne Germany a few years ago, my friends neighbor (Germans) got on the healthcare subjet. Wondered why we are against socilaized Med.


For Statutory Healthcare in Germany they pay 8.55% and their employer pays 8.55%. That is for individual and or family coverage. When you run the numbers their "premiums" really are that much cheaper.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31364 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:26 am to
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trinidadtiger


You don't know what you are talking about.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:33 am to
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So he has to limp around for two years

The system is incentivized to hope that you die before receiving care.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
96841 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:45 am to
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Canada sucks.



Cannot be overstated.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61269 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:48 am to
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The system is incentivized to hope that you die before receiving care.



Unlike the US where the system is incentivized to hope you die after paying your premiums.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19955 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:52 am to
I have lived in a country with a parallel health care system for the last 25 years.

I know living in a 3rd world location like La Place may make you think it gives you experience but it doesnt
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
31364 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:55 am to
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I know living in a 3rd world location like La Place may make you think it gives you experience but it doesnt

I don't live in LaPlace. So you really have no idea what you are talking about. Keep talking and make yourself look more foolish.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27157 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:57 am to
For those that might suspect that this is an anomaly, it isn't. This is the norm and has been for quite some time.


Socialized medicine, is designed (they say) to give equal health care to everyone. But in reality, it denies health care to the poor and the rich just come to America to get the health care they need.

Similar in Europe.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23894 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 9:57 am to
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He is talking about an elective procedure.

No, from the text in OP, the procedure is required by the govt of Ontario before he can get an MRI.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:03 am to
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Canadian, European, and Australian health care are great for emergent, urgent, and primary care. Once you get into specialty care and non-life threatening surgery, it’s a nightmare to navigate.

I will continue to “pay more” for our system. The cost to access on demand care is something I do not want to give up.


Fair statement about the differences.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19955 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:10 am to
The entire process is elective, its not a heart transplant.

My point is, most act as if you will die in Canada without care. If you have insurance you go to a private doctor, the same as the US.

If you want a bum knee fixed, they want you to have it examined first and you have to wait. I say again, walk into a hospital in the US tell them you have no insurance but you want the knee examined tested and fixed.......and see what they tell you.



Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23894 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:15 am to
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The entire process is elective, its not a heart transplant.

Knee injuries can be excruciatingly painful, as has been pointed out in replies above. Not getting it fixed isn’t an option. I don’t call that elective.

I’m not defending the US healthcare system. It’s a mess.

But socialized medicine isn’t an acceptable replacement. As I’ve said before, I’d be willing to allow marxists to have their way with these things, if they provided an opt out checkbox. I don’t want to pay into it and I don’t want to participate. No thank you.
This post was edited on 9/3/25 at 10:18 am
Posted by Westbank111
Armpit of America
Member since Sep 2013
4592 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:16 am to
“Elective procedure”???

TrinidadTiger, I feel sorry for those 2 brain cells bouncing around like ping pong in your empty brain.

I would say torn up knee, with most likely and ACL/MCL etc.. is not an elective procedure.

When your hurt like that, it’s not considered some minor deal.

Posted by Spankum
The Sip
Member since Jan 2007
62164 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:44 am to
All countries tout their healthcare systems among the best. It is a good thing our government would never lie to us….
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26447 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:49 am to
The cheapest price in Flushing, NY is listed as $170 and the NYState average cash price is around $275.

MRI's go for as little as $300 these days.

The Canadian system is run by bean-counters who find that waiting lists are cheaper than being adequately equipped.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26447 posts
Posted on 9/3/25 at 10:51 am to
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Our system is far from perfect but it is waaaay better than “single payer.”


Canadians in real need of medical diagnosis and treatment favorite quip is, "My dogs and cats get better care."
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