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re: Can We Stop With Being Simple Minded About Iran?

Posted on 9/23/26 at 6:23 pm to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
11766 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 6:23 pm to
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Hamas literally states in their charter their main objective is to erase Israel “from the river to the sea.” Look it up.


Right. That's why a condition of peace with Iran should be their agreement not to support Hamas.
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
480 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 6:52 pm to
Problem is Iran also is not interested in peace. They agreed not to enrich weapons grade uranium…and that turned out poorly. Can’t trust then even if they agreed.

The whole thing is FUBAR.

Just get so annoyed that people don’t understand it’s not Israel causing these problems. Israel is responding and doing what it feels it just to protect its people and ensure survival. And it’s sad that the world seems ok letting them perish.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37739 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 6:56 pm to
Perfectly said.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21742 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 6:59 pm to
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I ask people over and over on this website what their understanding of the global effects of a nuclear exchange between Iran and Israel would be


I don't give a shite. That's a problem Israel should have had to solve.

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The sources that I have/quote]

What sources? Bibi?

[quote]o anybody who is out there saying, "I don't care what those countries do to each other, it won't affect me,” you're a moron. You think $6 or $8 or $10 diesel is a problem? Wait until those two countries go at it with nuclear weapons. You'll be begging for the biggest problem we have to be $6 diesel.


You're a moron to think it was five minutes to midnight before Iran had a nuclear weapon. It's been five mintues to midnight for 30 fricking years.

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That's another thing we don't know for sure, and can't know for sure, but let's consider a couple of things. First, every United States president since 1979 – when Iran became a radical theocracy – has emphatically stated that Iran cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Every one. Reagan, Bush one, Clinton, Bush two, Obama, Trump, Biden, and now Trump again.


And every one of those Presidents managed to simultaneously get through their terms without 1. Iran getting a nuke & 2. Starting a war with Iran.

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Name one other policy – including foreign policy – that all of those presents have agreed upon over a 45 year stretch of time.


Umm, I dunno, maybe the continued military assistance & security relationship with Israel, genius. Arm sales to Taiwan, use of US Navy to preserve freedom of navigation. Continued reliance on our own nuclear arsenal as a deterrent. Continued support of key alliances with South Korea and Japan. That's off the top of my head...did you even look into this before posting your bullshite?

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I can’t.


That's because you're a moron.

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Also, the people who point out that as soon as we leave, Iran will go right back to trying to acquire nuclear weapons. That's true. That's the point. Why do they want one so badly that they will knee walk over broken glass to get one if they don't plan on using it?


Do you want to know why Afghanistan & Iraq were invaded while we've never started a hot war with, let's say, Russia or North Korea? It turns out the US won't bomb you if you have a nuke.

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They are a radical theocracy who has pledged many times to erase Israel from the face of the Earth. The same type of radical theology that led to dozens, if not hundreds of acts of terrorism across the globe, including 9/11.


I love how your ENTIRE message boils down to Iran being a threat to Israel, you don't argue that a war with Iran is for our benefit, it's for Israel's benefit. So, you're not only stupid but you're apparently a huge Zionist...then again, those two traits are usually found together in people like you.

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Speaking about being simple minded, if you’re not willing to read a little, just frick off this thread


Everyone should "frick off this thread" because you posted nothing but stupid elementary school shite and everyone who reads it will be dumber for having slogged through it.

I bet you felt smart when you posted this, didn't you?
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37739 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:02 pm to
The duck are you even talking about “five minutes to midnight?” Are you suggesting that anyone said that Iran would have a nuke five minutes from any point?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
25242 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:05 pm to
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Problem is Iran also is not interested in peace.


This has already been discussed, but the Shia sect of Islam(think the IRGC and Iranian clerics) seek to usher in the end times. They believe that bringing about massive war and disruption will cause the"Madi" to appear. At which time their definition of the apocalypse will occur.

That is their goal. Their way if thinking is not in any way similar to our way of thinking. Folks should keep this in mind. The Shia mooslums in Iran are a legitimate death cult.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10557 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:07 pm to
The bots got the notice to downvote this

Predictable as it is.
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
10557 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:08 pm to
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There were bigger wars than this 1,000 years ago


more like 15 years ago
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21742 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:17 pm to
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The duck are you even talking about “five minutes to midnight?” Are you suggesting that anyone said that Iran would have a nuke five minutes from any point?


Holy shite, you can't be this stupid
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37739 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:24 pm to
No, I can’t. It’s not possible. Ask around.



But you can. While also being an immature brat.
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21742 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:25 pm to
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No, I can’t. It’s not possible. Ask around.



You asked if I literally thought there was a five minutes to midnight clock. I'm afraid it's not looking good for you, buddy
This post was edited on 9/23/26 at 7:26 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37739 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:27 pm to
No, actually I do see now, I completely misread that. Swing and a miss indeed. But your response though…
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37739 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:27 pm to
Not looking good for me how, exactly?
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21742 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:37 pm to
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Not looking good for me how, exactly?


Sighs

It's just a saying man, I didn't mean they were literally 5mins from having a nuke.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37739 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:38 pm to
Did you not see where I already acknowledged my misreading of the comment??
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
21742 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:44 pm to
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Did you not see where I already acknowledged my misreading of the comment??


No, honestly. I didn't see that before replying.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
37739 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:51 pm to
Alright, I’m cool with moving past this if you are. Grudges are unhealthy.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
92141 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 7:58 pm to
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One problem I have is that a President can wage a war of this scale on a country without Congressional approval. If Trump can do it, then that means a melon head like Biden can do it.

Second is it was another miscalculation. Iran hasn't rolled over like Trump thought they would.



Congress hasn't declared war since WW2. That fact is why Trump is doing it. The standards had already been set.

Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
2380 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 8:01 pm to
You make a compelling argument of Logic and Reason.

I fear that many will only complain of high gas prices as they endeavor in their narcissistic existence.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
26931 posts
Posted on 9/23/26 at 8:05 pm to
The joke is on Iran. It is because of oil that Islam has regained a strong influence on the World. All that oil under their 'sacred' lands has given Islam plenty of capital to spread its terrorism and colonization of the world .
Because of Iran that spigot is turned down and other countries are getting rich off oil now . Like the United States. Venezuela is about to get rich off of oil again as well. The longer this war drags on the poorer Islam becomes and the richer the West becomes.
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